Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Darrin Kinney 
Subject: apple OSX 

Ok you ya my girlfriend bought an iBook. I have been waiting to mess
around with one so she has basically lent it to me to play with during the
day (yes she works and I just well do nothing except ride my bike 50 miles
a day.... its getting quite boring.... the life of the unemployeed)
anyway so the first thing I did was install safari.. which worked just
perfectly. then X11 which worked just perfectly.
the next thing was to see to do a little user admin stuff- add me as a
user,, still easy stuff
then was getting the web server working- simple again- although it was a
little weird that when I created the public_html folders it wasn't working
properly... so I was forced to read some docs and found out about that
apple called it "sites" ok so I was fine with that and got html to be
displayed

then I decided to check out emacs since I heard it was installed. so in
the terminal i typed emacs test.txt &   and go figure... it didn't work
got some suspended (tty output) error
of course I did find emacs in the application folder and it runs just
fine- I just can't open it from the terminal.. well no that isn't quite
right as it will open in terminal mode just not as a new window

anyway so then I moved on and got some file
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2001/12/14/apache_two.html
on how to get cgi, php and mysql running. It recommends that I open some
httpd.conf file. Of course it indicates that I should be using bbedit
(which requires me to shell out money--- no thanks!), and since I can't
get emacs to work I decide to use the finder.. and well I CAN'T FIND THE
FILE!!!!!  As clear as day the file sitting in etc/httpd but when I open
the HD there is NO ETC FOLDER??????  so I figure that just some display
option has been selected wrong well I can't seem to find anything.

Given all that I hear about apple development I can't believe that within
the first 3-4 things I try I find what I consider to be some serious
problems. I am sure these issues can all be solved by some guy who knows
something about this stuff but WHY???? I should be able to open the damn
HD folder and see whats there. Additionaly I figure I should use the
SEARCH function to see if the new version of OSX pu the file in a
different place. so I search for httpd -- go figure I get ZERO!!!! so
basically something is fucked up.

then with the emacs thing... I just don't get it- don't testers actually
use these things and make suggestions which could improve usability- ya
teh value added is small since due to how many "darrin's" are there out
there asking for this stuff.. but in the terminal I should be able to type
an application name and have the application OPEN! there is nothing
revolutionary about that is there?
I should be able to search for a file and have the computer find it! again
nothing novel in that requestion either-

guess I will just stay bitter and unemployeed