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Kozo Morimoto
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Reverse Newton
« on: May 16th, 2003, 12:24am » |
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Newton said that gravitational force is proportional to the inverse square of the distance between 2 objects. List 2 object where the gravitational force REDUCES when the obejcts are brought closer together.
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towr
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #1 on: May 16th, 2003, 1:11am » |
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I know objects between which the attractive force decreases as they get closer, but not gravitational force..
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #2 on: May 16th, 2003, 11:36am » |
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Perhaps those objects with their center of mass outside their bodies will have the characteristics described by the question (when you bring the two of them together in the right way)? Even though in reality the distance between their center of masses are actually increasing. Imagine bringing two arc-shaped objects closer and closer till they clinch.
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James Fingas
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #3 on: May 16th, 2003, 12:31pm » |
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Here's a well-known example: consider a human body and the Earth with a hole drilled all the way through to China (yeah, I know).
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towr
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #4 on: May 17th, 2003, 5:05am » |
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I would contend that the gravitational force doesn't really decrease, it's only the resulting gravitational vector that decreases, you get pulled from multiple (near infinite) directions, which are cancelling each other out..
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Kozo Morimoto
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #5 on: May 18th, 2003, 6:41pm » |
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Maybe I should change the wording of the riddle then?
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Re: Reverse Newton
« Reply #6 on: May 19th, 2003, 6:31am » |
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towr, Consider being inside a hollow massy sphere. Nowhere inside is there gravity. Now you might say that in the middle the "force" is biggest, but you're closer to the mass near the edges. How could you define a different "force" for different points? I think even the scalar integral of 1/d2 is constant in this case (but I didn't do the math)... I think the naive interpretation is perfectly valid: the gravitational force is just "the force attracting the two objects together".
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