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(Message started by: mikedagr8 on Sep 30^th, 2007, 7:02am)

Title: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 30^th, 2007, 7:02am

I know I may seem like prying, starting another survey, but but what is everyone's occupations, or desired occupations? No funnies for desired occupations. E.g. Condom tester.

My occupation currently is as a student full time.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 30^th, 2007, 9:00am

Most of this survey info is is already to be found in Who's Who? (http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_general;action=display;num=1033780880)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by towr on Sep 30^th, 2007, 9:15am

on 09/30/07 at 07:02:18, mikedagr8 wrote:

No funnies for desired occupations. E.g. Condom tester.

That's nothing to laugh at, it's a very important and serious job. Every single condom has to be tested for leaks and strength before they can be packaged and sold, otherwise the buyer wouldn't know if it's reliable.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 30^th, 2007, 5:58pm

I am aware of the Who's Who? thread, I have referenced it and have added my details there. I thought that not enough details were known about them, so I thought I'd ask seperately.

I meant condom tester as a joke, in the actual one-off use, not the actual testing. Geesh, I was only messing around, I know it's a serious thing.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Sep 30^th, 2007, 6:14pm

on 09/30/07 at 17:58:23, mikedagr8 wrote:

Geesh, I was only messing around, I know it's a serious thing.

LOL, and he was returning the favor and messing around with you a bit. He was implying that they were all used prior to being packed up and sold, etc :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Sameer on Sep 30^th, 2007, 7:17pm

on 09/30/07 at 17:58:23, mikedagr8 wrote:

Since you know about the thread and have a good memory you should know most of our occupations and maybe just list the people whose occupation you don't; and maybe they will answer here ;) :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 30^th, 2007, 7:19pm

on 09/30/07 at 19:17:29, Sameer wrote:

Since you know about the thread and have a good memory you should know most of our occupations and maybe just list the people whose occupation you don't; and maybe they will answer here ;) :P

No thanks. I would probably just pm them for that. :P

Since they choose not to disclose it, if I ask them in person, and hold my tongue, then I may get a response. ;)

If people reply without me asking them personally it saves me some time.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by towr on Sep 30^th, 2007, 11:41pm

on 09/30/07 at 18:14:39, ima1trkpny wrote:

LOL, and he was returning the favor and messing around with you a bit. He was implying that they were all used prior to being packed up and sold, etc :P

I was messing with him, but not in that way. I just think it's funny to reply seriously to jokes sometimes. It throws people off :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Lire and Fighting on Oct 1^st, 2007, 12:36am

on 09/30/07 at 23:41:33, towr wrote:

I was messing with him, but not in that way. I just think it's funny to reply seriously to jokes sometimes. It throws people off :P

Yep sure did.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by hiyathere on Oct 1^st, 2007, 4:54am

I can't wait to graduate from high school...

But at least I'm a sophomore now :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Sir Col on Oct 27^th, 2007, 5:01am

I'm still at school. ::)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Oct 27^th, 2007, 6:13am

on 10/27/07 at 05:01:50, Sir Col wrote:

I'm still at school. ::)

What subjects?

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Ghost Sniper on Oct 29^th, 2007, 5:02am

A days:

1: AP Lang/Comp
2: AP world history
3: Orchestra
4: C++/VB

B days:

1: Research
2: Trig/Pre-calc
3: Chemistry
4: French II

Of all the classes, I like C++ the best, and hate research the most.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Sir Col on Oct 29^th, 2007, 12:14pm

on 10/27/07 at 06:13:25, mikedagr8 wrote:

What subjects?

Mathematics mainly. ;)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Oct 29^th, 2007, 1:55pm

on 10/29/07 at 12:14:56, Sir Col wrote:

Mathematics mainly. ;)

I assumed the same.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Oct 29^th, 2007, 1:58pm

on 10/29/07 at 05:02:11, Ghost Sniper wrote:

Your timetable is way simpler than mine. It spans 10 days, where I participate in English, Maths, Science (Chemistry/Physics), History (Russian Revolution), I.T., Religion and Society, Sport, P.E., Language Studies and Business Management. But, luckily I can drop most of those. ;D

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by FiBsTeR on Oct 29^th, 2007, 2:23pm

on 10/29/07 at 05:02:11, Ghost Sniper wrote:

A days:

1: AP Lang/Comp
2: AP world history
3: Orchestra
4: C++/VB

B days:

1: Research
2: Trig/Pre-calc
3: Chemistry
4: French II

No AP Calc/Stats/CompSci/Physics/Bio/Chem/etc.? Or have you taken most of these? Or are you more into the humanities? Just curious. ;)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Aurora on Oct 30^th, 2007, 9:15am

on 10/29/07 at 13:58:36, mikedagr8 wrote:

How's this for confusing, for GCSE I'm taking:

English
English Lit
Maths
Chemistry
Physics
Biology
Art
Geography
German (taking it a year early, be done by June)
ICT (only half, it'll be done by June too)
RE (also half, but not doing it until next year
Spanish
Citizenship (fortunately half course ;D)
Critical Thinking (techinically this is an AS level)

Oh, and my timetable's a 10 day one too.

I reckon I could probably make a decent prosecuting barrister, but I've got a few years before I have to decide.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Ghost Sniper on Oct 30^th, 2007, 10:15am

on 10/29/07 at 13:58:36, mikedagr8 wrote:

Then again, this is a high school schedule, which, in most cases, is much simpler than college schedules.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Oct 30^th, 2007, 1:07pm

on 10/29/07 at 14:23:34, FiBsTeR wrote:

No AP Calc/Stats/CompSci/Physics/Bio/Chem/etc.? Or have you taken most of these? Or are you more into the humanities? Just curious. ;)

Depends on what grade he is... most schools won't allow students to take the APs until they are upperclassmen... however they sometimes make exceptions for the really precocious Freshman and Sophmores.
LOL... with the exception of Comp Sci I had all those courses in high school... >.< made for some miserably long nights of homework. My recommendation to you munchkins is yes, take hard courses to challenge yourself, but don't over do it... balancing everything is the key and enjoy your high school years! You only get to live those experiences once and then you're out in the adult world.

And Aurora, Heilige Kuh! That is quite a list... just be glad you don't have those classes every day... that is one of the beauties of your system, at least in my school district, we didn't have block scheduling... every class, every day... 0.0 But anyway, that is quite load to carry. I wish you luck! And if you ever feel like practicing your German, I'm always in need of a way to keep from getting rusty.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Ghost Sniper on Oct 31^st, 2007, 5:03am

I will probably be taking both AP calc and AP Stats next year, because I'm on trig/pre-calc right now. I will take AP comp/sci next year as well, once I finish taking C++ this year. I'm trying to work out a schedule for the sciences, because I'm still not sure what I'm going to take, because if I want to take AP physics, I will have to take physics first next year, or I can just take AP chem next year, then AP Bio. I can also double up on the sciences, but that means I will have to kick out any sort of music classes for next year.

The reason I'm taking only AP History and Lang/Comp is because I'm only a sophomore, and those are the only ones I can take right now. :P

P.S. I have A+'s in both those classes right now ;D

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Oct 31^st, 2007, 6:03am

on 10/31/07 at 05:03:14, Ghost Sniper wrote:

The reason I'm taking only AP History and Lang/Comp is because I'm only a sophomore, and those are the only ones I can take right now. :P

P.S. I have A+'s in both those classes right now ;D

No getting cocky until you got 5s on both ::)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Ghost Sniper on Oct 31^st, 2007, 10:29am

on 10/31/07 at 06:03:40, ima1trkpny wrote:

No getting cocky until you got 5s on both ::)

hehe...
I'm pretty much guaranteed a 5 on AP world history, but I'm not so sure about lang/comp. I'm not worried about the essays and the DBQ for history, but I'm not exactly the best at analyzing other people's essays.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Oct 31^st, 2007, 3:22pm

on 10/31/07 at 10:29:43, Ghost Sniper wrote:

Don't worry... world history is probably one of the easier AP exams... the most complex I ran across was the Physics. A fair bit of the history type exams is generally knowing how to interpret graphs, etc as well as of course knowing the usual important dates, etc. Lang/Comp isn't a bad test either... one I rather enjoyed. Know your literary terms!!! Probably the most important thing as far as the analysis type questions is you really need to explore who the audience is and the author's purpose... the good thing is they release old questions, so I'd highly recommend getting ahold of the old passages and multiple choice responses, practice and then check your answers. The CollegeBoard can be tricky little buggers on that test and often give more than one technically correct answer so you need to learn to think like the test designer to be able to determine what the correct answer will be in their eyes. Anyway, you are a long way off from the testing so enjoy life and don't stress out about it. You'll be ready and you've got a lot of practice time and improving time between now and then. Best of luck! :)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by rmsgrey on Nov 1^st, 2007, 7:05am

on 10/31/07 at 15:22:25, ima1trkpny wrote:

The CollegeBoard can be tricky little buggers on that test and often give more than one technically correct answer so you need to learn to think like the test designer to be able to determine what the correct answer will be in their eyes.

I hate it when it's not a question of "Which is the right answer?" but "Which does the examiner think is the most right answer?"

Apart from anything else, I don't like the idea getting penalised for giving a correct answer just because it's not the (subjectively) "best" answer...

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Sir Col on Nov 1^st, 2007, 11:56am

on 11/01/07 at 07:05:53, rmsgrey wrote:

I hate it when it's not a question of "Which is the right answer?" but "Which does the examiner think is the most right answer?"

I know exactly what you mean, rmsgrey. For years I taught my students that you could add fractions like this: 1/2 + 2/3 = 3/5, and none of them ever found them difficult. I could give them pages of calculations and they'd churn the answers out in minutes. However, recently some pesky examiner insists on a convoluted "common denominator" method. To be honest neither I nor my students understand any more. I dunno!? ::)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by FiBsTeR on Nov 1^st, 2007, 5:02pm

on 11/01/07 at 07:05:53, rmsgrey wrote:

I hate it when it's not a question of "Which is the right answer?" but "Which does the examiner think is the most right answer?"

As for as the math and science standardized tests (including AP), I don't think there's any ambiguity in the questions. There's always a correct answer, and the examiner has a very strict rubric (I've seen an example of one, from which to grade the free response questions (the multiple-choice machine-checker is even more strict :P). If there is even the slightest hint of ambiguity in a question on an AP test, I'm sure the people who review these things have caught them. If not, any student can report ambiguous questions to be reviewed again.

I can't speak as definitively for AP Lang/Comp and the like, but I'm pretty sure the rules of grammar are fairly strict, as well. Sure there are some things left up to style (last comma of a list, for example), but I doubt these things appear on a test, although I can't say for sure because I've never taken that AP test yet.

EDIT:

on 11/01/07 at 11:56:25, Sir Col wrote:

For years I taught my students that you could add fractions like this: 1/2 + 2/3 = 3/5

And thus 2 + 1 = 3, (2/1)+(-1/-1)=1/0, 2 = 1/0, and thus all numbers are undefined, and there are no correct answers to any question.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by JiNbOtAk on Nov 1^st, 2007, 5:41pm

on 11/01/07 at 07:05:53, rmsgrey wrote:

I hate it when it's not a question of "Which is the right answer?" but "Which does the examiner think is the most right answer?"

The barometer (http://tlc.ousd.k12.ca.us/~acody/barometer.html) story is a good example. I guess the examiners are prepping the students to face the real world; Clients don't really care how you do it, or if it's done correctly, as long as it conforms to what they want. ( some don't even know what they want, but that's a different story. )

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Nov 1^st, 2007, 5:52pm

on 11/01/07 at 17:41:45, JiNbOtAk wrote:

I'd go with the more violent and destructive methods simply because they're fun. ;D
I wouldn't worry about replacing the barometer, it worked fine. ::) :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Nov 1^st, 2007, 8:04pm

on 11/01/07 at 17:02:59, FiBsTeR wrote:

As for as the math and science standardized tests (including AP), I don't think there's any ambiguity in the questions. There's always a correct answer...
I can't speak as definitively for AP Lang/Comp and the like, but I'm pretty sure the rules of grammar are fairly strict, as well. Sure there are some things left up to style (last comma of a list, for example), but I doubt these things appear on a test, although I can't say for sure because I've never taken that AP test yet.

Hahaha, you assume I meant grammatically... well there is MUCH more to the Eng. Lang/Comp. test than that. Most of them are more interpretational... read a passage and tell them what the significance of Jane having 6 books on the table as opposed to 7, etc (being a little exaggerated... but they do have plenty that are very very open to the interpretation of the reader) and the problem with it being multiple choice is they will give you several answers all of which could make sense depending on your perspective and you aren't given the opportunity to support your answer with your logic... you either see it the way they do or you don't.
And coming from the perspective of someone who has taken all of the AP science and math tests with the exception of chemistry (took that as underclassman because they wouldn't let me take AP :'( ) as well as the Humanities tests like English, etc. LOL... yes, in the Math and Science they are considerably less ambiguous... but they are tricky none the less. They delight in occasionally wording things in misleading fashions. *Note: Pay attention to Unit traps!!!* Every year many people lose a whole lot of points because they were too stressed out to realize that some measurements in the problem weren't given in base units and so they forgot to convert...
And LOL... the examiners are teachers, they want to give every point can (especially since the tests don't have names on them they could be grading their own student's tests) that doesn't mean the test itself and the test designers don't deliberately get very tricky. The Physics test is the one I'm referring to the most... but from the CollegeBoards perspective, if someone gets a 100% on the test, CollegeBoard did a poor job of designing as they don't know the limits of your knowledge. So they will deliberately set up tricky questions or ones far more advanced than high school AP students would be likely to have seen so they can find out who really knows how to think and understands the concepts.
This isn't to say AP is bad... in fact I loved it ;D just don't be cocky going into it... be confident in your abilities but go in with your eyes open and pay attention to every detail because they will employ some subterfuge just to see if you were quick enough to catch it. Oh... and final suggestion... study your labs and know them inside and out before you go into the test... that will be a huge help in the free response. Best of luck!

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by rmsgrey on Nov 3^rd, 2007, 5:46am

I'm reminded of what I heard about the Statistics exam where, from time to time, someone would score 101% - the exam was marked out of 102 and the numerical value of the mark given as the percentage score (no-one ever got full marks)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by JiNbOtAk on Nov 4^th, 2007, 5:49pm

on 11/03/07 at 05:46:05, rmsgrey wrote:

(no-one ever got full marks)

Hmm..why is that ? What is wrong with awarding full marks ? ( Provided they answered everything correctly ? )

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by ima1trkpny on Nov 4^th, 2007, 7:39pm

on 11/04/07 at 17:49:41, JiNbOtAk wrote:

Hmm..why is that ? What is wrong with awarding full marks ? ( Provided they answered everything correctly ? )

It was just ironic... but the test designers don't want anybody able to get full marks... then they don't know the limits of your knowledge.

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by JiNbOtAk on Nov 4^th, 2007, 8:28pm

No one can get full marks, but anyone can get zero..it's like saying anyone can be mediocre, but no one can be perfect.

Wait, that is how the world works. :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Iceman on Jan 12^th, 2008, 8:36am

on 09/30/07 at 07:02:18, mikedagr8 wrote:

I know I may seem like prying, starting another survey, but but what is everyone's occupations, or desired occupations?

.....talking about the latter question, I always wanted to be a fireman. Why? Because there aren't many fires, or at least, not in my town, so basically what you do is nothing most of the time. Sure, you might get burned badly, but hey, laziness has its price. ::)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by mikedagr8 on Jan 13^th, 2008, 2:49am

on 01/12/08 at 08:36:12, Iceman wrote:

True to that, I've always wanted to be succesful, but I've never been quite sure of how to accomplish that. :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Iceman on Jan 13^th, 2008, 4:32am

You're 16 so you have an excuse. :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by FiBsTeR on Jan 13^th, 2008, 7:40am

on 01/12/08 at 08:36:12, Iceman wrote:

In my town, the fire department is on a volunteer basis, so you could sit around all you want, but you wouldn't get paid for it. :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Iceman on Jan 13^th, 2008, 9:14am

Then I'll just avoid your town, even though I don't like third-degree burns. It's nothing personal, but I am Iceman, so I suppose any fire department would be proud to have me. Wherever there are burning forests, I'll be there. Wherever there are burning buildings, I'll be there. Wherever there are women with third-degree burns, I won't be there. So you better be in perfect health when I enter the burning building, baby. I may be fireman in heart, but I also have quite a specific taste. So if she's burned, I'll get the hell out of there like a bat out of hell, resign immediately, and go on a long vacation in FiBsTeR's town. All evens all, I guess, and again, nothing personal. Sometimes I try to be humoristic by applying black humor as well. Oh well, maybe I'm just lonely because I had sex three years ago. :-[ :-*

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by FiBsTeR on Jan 13^th, 2008, 10:28am

on 11/01/07 at 20:04:04, ima1trkpny wrote:

The Physics test is the one I'm referring to the most... but from the CollegeBoards perspective, if someone gets a 100% on the test, CollegeBoard did a poor job of designing as they don't know the limits of your knowledge. So they will deliberately set up tricky questions or ones far more advanced than high school AP students would be likely to have seen so they can find out who really knows how to think and understands the concepts.

Really? From some of the released AP tests I've seen, the questions seem fairly straightforward, at least on the Classical Mechanics side (I start E&M next week).

And I don't think they have too many qualms on giving perfect scores; I got 800/800 on two of their SAT Subject Tests. :)

On a separate note, I hope this post is formatted correctly, since I'm starting to check/post on these forums on my phone. ;)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Ghost Sniper on Jan 14^th, 2008, 10:17am

on 01/13/08 at 09:14:38, Iceman wrote:

Well in that case...

My school building is burning down as we speak. So get your butt over here, pronto. :P

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Iceman on Jan 14^th, 2008, 11:32am

on 01/14/08 at 10:17:39, Ghost Sniper wrote:

My school building is burning down as we speak. So get your butt over here, pronto. :P

Have no fear: Iceman is here! Btw, I don't need a fire extinguisher, for I AM fire extinguisher. 8)

http://www.geocities.com/alien624837/iceman3.gif

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by FiBsTeR on Jan 15^th, 2008, 4:23pm

on 01/14/08 at 11:32:55, Iceman wrote:

http://www.geocities.com/alien624837/iceman3.gif

Hadouken!!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken) (For those of you that remember Street Fighter.)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jan 15^th, 2008, 10:32pm

on 01/15/08 at 16:23:59, FiBsTeR wrote:

Hadouken!!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken) (For those of you that remember Street Fighter.)

Who doesn't ?

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by Grimbal on Jan 16^th, 2008, 3:40am

Street Fighter? What is that? ::)

Title: Re: Survey #3
Post by towr on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:15am

on 01/16/08 at 03:40:27, Grimbal wrote:

Street Fighter? What is that? ::)

It's a movie with Jean-Claude Van Damme
I don't recall it featuring any Hadouken though.
::)