Author |
Topic: Marble jars (Read 9698 times) |
|
Ither
Newbie
Posts: 2
|
|
Marble jars
« on: Jul 14th, 2006, 2:53am » |
Quote Modify
|
The answer is likely to put all the white marbles in one jar while all the black marbles into another, therefore you get a 50\50 chance no matter what.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
rmsgrey
Uberpuzzler
Gender:
Posts: 2873
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #1 on: Jul 15th, 2006, 9:39am » |
Quote Modify
|
It's possible to do better
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Aravis
Junior Member
Posts: 56
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #2 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 6:41pm » |
Quote Modify
|
hint: you only need to pull one marble out of the jar
|
|
IP Logged |
Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together. -Carl Zwanzig
|
|
|
arunachalam
Newbie
Posts: 2
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 6:05am » |
Quote Modify
|
The Answer is 74/99 (Max Probability of his living)
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
arunachalam
Newbie
Posts: 2
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #4 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 7:17am » |
Quote Modify
|
Sorry for saying how it is.. I just wanted u persons/ guys to verify that it is right? Leave only one white marble in one of the jars and transfer the remaining and now calculating the probability , it is 74/99
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
vineet
Newbie
Gender:
Posts: 2
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #6 on: May 23rd, 2007, 1:13am » |
Quote Modify
|
Yes that is the correct answer !!
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #7 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 4:47pm » |
Quote Modify
|
A white marble in one jar, the other 99 marbles in the other jar. Infinitesimally less that 75%, infinitesimally more that 25%.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler
The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea
Gender:
Posts: 4489
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #8 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 4:53pm » |
Quote Modify
|
on Aug 28th, 2007, 4:47pm, srn347 wrote:Infinitesimally less that 75%, infinitesimally more that 25%. |
| Is 396 the first transfinite number?
|
|
IP Logged |
THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #9 on: Aug 28th, 2007, 5:31pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Transfinite?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler
The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea
Gender:
Posts: 4489
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #10 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 7:51am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Aug 28th, 2007, 5:31pm, srn347 wrote: When does less/more become 'infinitesimally less/more'?
|
« Last Edit: Aug 29th, 2007, 9:09am by ThudnBlunder » |
IP Logged |
THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #11 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 10:15am » |
Quote Modify
|
In this case, it's when 74/99 is converted to a percentage. Multiply both sides by 100/99(or 1 1/99).
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
towr
wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler
Some people are average, some are just mean.
Gender:
Posts: 13730
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #12 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 10:32am » |
Quote Modify
|
It's a very definite difference though, nothing infinitesimal about it. 75/100 - 74/99 = (99*75 - 74*100)/9900 = 1/396 1/396 is not infinitesimal by any stretch of the imagination.
|
|
IP Logged |
Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #13 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 11:36am » |
Quote Modify
|
Regardless of whether or not the repeating decimal is infinitesimal, you have almost 75% chance of living and slightly more than 25% chance of dying.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
mikedagr8
Uberpuzzler
A rich man is one who is content; not wealthy.
Gender:
Posts: 1105
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #14 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 4:54pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Quote:Regardless of whether or not the repeating decimal is infinitesimal, you have almost 75% chance of living and slightly more than 25% chance of dying. |
| There is no decimal in 1/396. Just pointing out flaws you have stated so here, you better change this. Also, for a realistic problem, the closest percentage is accepted, not the exact percentage. That is most commonly known as rounding.
|
|
IP Logged |
"It's not that I'm correct, it's that you're just not correct, and so; I am right." - M.P.E.
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #15 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 4:57pm » |
Quote Modify
|
.00252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252 52525252525252525252525252525 looks like a decimal to me.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
mikedagr8
Uberpuzzler
A rich man is one who is content; not wealthy.
Gender:
Posts: 1105
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #16 on: Aug 29th, 2007, 5:02pm » |
Quote Modify
|
It looks like that when it is put into decimal form, but it is a lot clearer when left in the fraction, where there is no decimal. You needn't keep arguing. I'm not going to tolerate this. Listen to people on this site, they have a little more experience than you.
|
|
IP Logged |
"It's not that I'm correct, it's that you're just not correct, and so; I am right." - M.P.E.
|
|
|
towr
wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler
Some people are average, some are just mean.
Gender:
Posts: 13730
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #17 on: Aug 30th, 2007, 1:08am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Aug 29th, 2007, 4:57pm, srn347 wrote: .00252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252 52525252525252525252525252525 looks like a decimal to me. |
| That looks like a finite decimal, and it's not equal to 1/396 And even then, what does it have to do with anything?
|
|
IP Logged |
Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB
|
|
|
FiBsTeR
Senior Riddler
Gender:
Posts: 581
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #18 on: Aug 31st, 2007, 2:51pm » |
Quote Modify
|
It seems like all of the threads nowadays appear something like this: ------------------ Problem Explanation ------------------ Hints/Clues/Ideas ------------------ Solution ------------------ MINDLESS BICKERING ------------------
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler
The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea
Gender:
Posts: 4489
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #19 on: Aug 31st, 2007, 3:00pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Yeah, mikedagr8 ought to realize that discretion is the better part of valour.
|
|
IP Logged |
THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
|
|
|
mikedagr8
Uberpuzzler
A rich man is one who is content; not wealthy.
Gender:
Posts: 1105
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #20 on: Aug 31st, 2007, 4:14pm » |
Quote Modify
|
I ought to? I do. Just it doesn't mean I follow the standard protocols. E.g. You know junk food is bad, yet you still eat it.
|
|
IP Logged |
"It's not that I'm correct, it's that you're just not correct, and so; I am right." - M.P.E.
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #21 on: Aug 31st, 2007, 11:37pm » |
Quote Modify
|
They are equal. I checked on a calculator.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
wvoigt
Newbie
Posts: 2
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #22 on: Sep 1st, 2007, 3:28am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Aug 31st, 2007, 11:37pm, srn347 wrote:They are equal. I checked on a calculator. |
| Surely you are joking, Mr. srn347?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
mikedagr8
Uberpuzzler
A rich man is one who is content; not wealthy.
Gender:
Posts: 1105
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #23 on: Sep 1st, 2007, 3:30am » |
Quote Modify
|
Master, he's 13.
|
|
IP Logged |
"It's not that I'm correct, it's that you're just not correct, and so; I am right." - M.P.E.
|
|
|
srn437
Newbie
the dark lord rises again....
Posts: 1
|
|
Re: Marble jars
« Reply #24 on: Sep 1st, 2007, 9:37am » |
Quote Modify
|
I'm not joking, and my name isn't surely(ok, now I'm joking).
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
|