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winning algorithm/combination to win NIM  
« on: Apr 27th, 2009, 9:17am »
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In the game of nim.
You have three piles consisting of 3,5, and 7.
The players take turn selecting any amount as long as it is in one pile. The player that's left with the lst one loses.
 
What is the winning combination/algorithm of this game and how can I be sure o win each time?
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Re: winning algorithm/combination to win NIM  
« Reply #1 on: Apr 27th, 2009, 8:19pm »
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Well, it depends whether or not you go first. I don't think there is a way.  
Nvm, there is a way, but you have to go first to be guaranteed a win.
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Re: winning algorithm/combination to win NIM  
« Reply #2 on: Apr 28th, 2009, 6:22am »
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The winning strategy is to always move to one of the following situations:
   (1 0 0) or (1 2 3)  in any order
   (n n 0)  for n>1
   (1 4 5) (2 4 6) (3 4 7)
   (2 5 7) (1 5 4) (3 5 6)
 
I think that covers it.
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Re: winning algorithm/combination to win NIM  
« Reply #3 on: Apr 28th, 2009, 5:30pm »
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i don't think order has anything to do with it.  
My teacher played it with us and regardless of who was going first, he's always win.
What about combinations where you only have 2 piles left?
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Re: winning algorithm/combination to win NIM  
« Reply #4 on: Apr 28th, 2009, 10:20pm »
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Well, obviously if 2 people as good as your teacher play together, one of them has to loose.  There is no fail-safe strategy for both sides!  Your teacher won because of his opponent's mistakes.
From (3 5 7) you should remove 1 from any pile.  If you do anything else, your teacher will take the opportunity and win.  There might be a psychological component: taking 1 looks too simple and isn't played much as a starting move.
 
With 2 piles left, you must make them equal.  Whatever your opponent does, you can take the same from the other pile.  The one exception is at the end, when one pile is 0 or 1, then make sure to leave only one item.
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