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« on: Jul 19th, 2009, 1:02pm »
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Can you rearrange the digits of a number n to obtain 2n? Note: n must be a whole number in base 10. I've been trying to find a solution for a long while and found nothing. any help would be nice.
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:09pm »
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on Jul 19th, 2009, 1:02pm, x2862 wrote:
Can you rearrange the digits of a number n to obtain 2n? Note: n must be a whole number in base 10. I've been trying to find a solution for a long while and found nothing. any help would be nice.
Yes, you can.
Consider the decimal expansion of 1/7
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 3:18pm »
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Interestingly, there are twelve possible values for n less than a million, and they all use the same set of digits!
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 12:26am »
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on Jul 19th, 2009, 2:09pm, towr wrote:

Yes, you can.
Consider the decimal expansion of 1/7

How did you find this?
 
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 12:40am »
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on Sep 14th, 2009, 12:26am, R wrote:
How did you find this?
 
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As for me, I simply wrote a bit of code to try all numbers less than a million. towr's solution relies on a well-known property of decimal expansions of fractions:
1/7 = 0.142857142857...
2/7 = 0.285714285714...
3/7 = 0.428571428571...
4/7 = 0.571428571428...
5/7 = 0.714285714285...
6/7 = 0.857142857142...
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 12:55am »
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on Sep 14th, 2009, 12:26am, R wrote:
How did you find this?
I remembered it from when it came up in a similar question.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 5:35am »
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on Sep 14th, 2009, 12:40am, pex wrote:

As for me, I simply wrote a bit of code to try all numbers less than a million.  

Ah! Disappointing!!!
 
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towr's solution relies on a well-known property of decimal expansions of fractions:
1/7 = 0.142857142857...
2/7 = 0.285714285714...
3/7 = 0.428571428571...
4/7 = 0.571428571428...
5/7 = 0.714285714285...
6/7 = 0.857142857142...

Can you elaborate on  that property or give link to some good source?
 
on Sep 14th, 2009, 12:55am, towr wrote:

I remembered it from when it came up in a similar question.

Well I was going to add "Or you knew this?" and just didn't. I thought, YOU must be having good logical approach anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 6:29am »
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on Sep 14th, 2009, 5:35am, R wrote:
Well I was going to add "Or you knew this?" and just didn't. I thought, YOU must be having good logical approach anyway.
Nah, if I hadn't remember this, I'd have used pex's approach and run a program.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 14th, 2009, 9:08am »
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on Sep 14th, 2009, 5:35am, R wrote:
Can you elaborate on  that property or give link to some good source?

MathWorld has a page on it.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 10th, 2010, 8:27pm »
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umm the question specifically stated it must be a whole number.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 10th, 2010, 9:47pm »
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on Feb 10th, 2010, 8:27pm, victorpride wrote:
umm the question specifically stated it must be a whole number.

142857 x 2 = 285714
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