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(Message started by: maryl on Jun 19th, 2003, 12:49pm)

Title: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 19th, 2003, 12:49pm
All the items in the first list share a particular attribute. The second list is of some items lacking the attribute.

A. with: battery, key, yeast, bookmark w/out: stapler, match, Rubik's cube, pill bottle
B. with: Rubik's cube, chess set, electrical wiring, compass needle w/out: clock, rope, tic-tac-toe, pencil sharpener
C. with: koosh, small intestine, Yorkshire Terrier, Christmas Tree w/out: toothbrush, oak chair, soccer ball, icicle

Points to realize: 1. There may be exceptions to any item on the list, for instance a particular clock may share the properties of the 'with' list of problem two, BUT MOST ORDINARY clocks do not. All the properties apply the vast majority of the the items mentioned. Extraordinary exceptions should be ignored. 2. Pay the most attention to the 'with' list. The 'without' list is only present to eliminate various 'stupid' answers.

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 19th, 2003, 3:17pm
A:: [hide]only become useful when placed inside something[/hide] ::

No idea about the others at the moment?!

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by THUDandBLUNDER on Jun 20th, 2003, 12:47am
Do you mean 'koosh' as in "No English dictionary contains the word koosh"?   ;)

B: [hide]They can all be turned (round)[/hide]?


Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 20th, 2003, 6:17am

on 06/20/03 at 00:47:00, THUDandBLUNDER wrote:
Do you mean 'koosh' as in "No English dictionary contains the word koosh"?   ;)

B: [hide]They can all be turned (round)[/hide]?


B. No, that wouldn't be what they have in common.
C. "koosh" is the name of a ball kids play with, it consists of a soft rubber spiked body. I tried to copy a picture of it for you, but don't know how to do that on this board.

 

 




During the 1988 Christmas season, the Koosh ball was the hottest toy on the




Title: Re: Attribute
Post by MattyDK23 on Jun 22nd, 2003, 4:44pm
B: [hide]Objects that can be used to create many different routes / combinations / permutations?[/hide] :

No idea about C, but here's a picture of some Koosh balls, using the [ img ] tag:
http://www.trainerswarehouse.com/shop/images/KOOSH.JPG

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:54am
Matty, thanx for the pic, I'm going to have to work on that.
Sorry that's not it for B either.

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 25th, 2003, 2:24pm
B was tough

B:[Hide] color differentiation [/Hide]

C was by far easier

C:[Hide] they all have fibres (i am speaking of a general class of fibres which include wool,hair etc..) [/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 25th, 2003, 3:18pm
Interesting answers, TenaliRaman, but how does a compass need [hide]colour differentiation[/hide] and doesn't a toothbrush have [hide]fibres[/hide]?

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 25th, 2003, 3:39pm
B:[Hide]
in the compass i had earlier with me had a needle with its north pole coloured blue and the south pole uncoloured (IIRC).
[/Hide]
C:[Hide]
yes i did not look at the w/out section there.
But still i can say natural fibres as the answer[/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 26th, 2003, 10:38am
B. [hide]The day after I posted this puzzle I went shopping and saw a compass partially coloured green.

C. A toothbrush has fibers only at one end, I guess this was to eliminate other objects that were similiar. All of the objects are villus in their entirety.[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 26th, 2003, 11:13am
Aha, C is very clever! Nice one, Marly.

Still not sure about B, though, surely a clock would be coloured in the same way that a compass is?

I'll post a couple, if that's okay?

D. with: laser, calculator, steam engine, space-rocket; without: astronaut, vase, abacus, nuclear reactor
E. with: watch, moat, belt, planet; without: island, glasses, pencil, clock

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:12pm
D:[Hide]associated with heat in one or the other way and they don't have it as their end product...
Calculators have LED's,Steam Engine and Space Rockets no mention required and lasing action may be associated with some heat.[/Hide]

E:[Hide]The boundaries are usually circular.....
as for the clock i have digital ones which are not circular  ;D[/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by THUDandBLUNDER on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:13pm
E: [hide]They all encircle something (wrist, castle, waist, star). [/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:24pm
So close with, E, TenaliRaman, but I think T&B stole your thunder.

Not convinced of D, surely a nuclear reactor and a steam engine are both associated with heat? In case there is any ambiguity I'll add an extra example to each,

D. with: laser, calculator, steam engine, space-rocket, geiger counter; without: astronaut, vase, abacus, nuclear reactor, volcano

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by wowbagger on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:24pm
Tenali, as far as I remember, [hide]LEDs[/hide] don't have much to do with [hide]heat[/hide], whereas a [hide]nuclear reactor[/hide] definitely has.
As for E, [hide]a belt's boundary isn't circular, and the planet is debatable[/hide].

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:29pm
is D : [Hide]Radiation [/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by wowbagger on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:37pm
Don't forget the nuclear reactor, Tenali!   :)

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:53pm
Ah! the nuclear reactor !!!!!  :-[is D:[Hide]
they require some sort of initiator or power source??
[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 26th, 2003, 2:12pm
Is Uranium not as much a power source as coal is to a steam engine?

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 28th, 2003, 8:58am
Uranium is not a power source meant for the reactor,is it?

P.S : [Hide]How does one decrease the size of this typing space? it seems to be large even for short posts![/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 28th, 2003, 9:20am
It's because of your avatar, TenaliRaman.

I'll add an extra clue to with and without...

D. with: laser, calculator, steam engine, space-rocket, geiger counter, telescope; without: astronaut, vase, abacus, nuclear reactor, volcano, Egyptian mummy.

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 28th, 2003, 9:45am
[hide]Wouldn't D have something to do with specifics, like they all measure by a specific method or have limitations in how they work. The rocket goes straight up, the laser points to a specific target, the calculator only calculates what you put in etc.?[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by Sir Col on Jun 28th, 2003, 10:06am
Good idea, Maryl, but it's more specific than that.  ;D

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by NickH on Jun 28th, 2003, 2:41pm
Here are three more...

F. with: happy face, postage stamp, rock concert, lipstick; without: toothbrush, fish, lamppost, clipboard

G. with: crescent wrench, television, lathe, dentist's chair, Maglight (tm); without: Philip's screwdriver, vibrosander, spoon, dice, battery

H. with: bank account, umbrella, eyes, book, coke bottle; without: dice, Tree, postcard, key, battery

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 28th, 2003, 2:55pm
F. [hide]Things you put on?[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by NickH on Jun 28th, 2003, 3:04pm
F. Correct!

Here's one more...

I. with: an error, a knot, a knight, a toon, a boar; without: a correction, a rope, a bishop, an artist, a monkey

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:21am
H:[Hide] You can open them ?!? [/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:07pm

on 06/28/03 at 09:20:37, Sir Col wrote:
It's because of your avatar, TenaliRaman.

I'll add an extra clue to with and without...

D. with: laser, calculator, steam engine, space-rocket, geiger counter, telescope; without: astronaut, vase, abacus, nuclear reactor, volcano, Egyptian mummy.


Is D: [hide]Things we've improved on?[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:14pm

on 06/28/03 at 15:04:09, NickH wrote:
F. Correct!

Here's one more...

I. with: an error, a knot, a knight, a toon, a boar; without: a correction, a rope, a bishop, an artist, a monkey


I. [hide]Things you have to maneuver in a certain direction.[/hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:19pm
[quote author=NickH link=board=riddles_easy;num=1056052175;start=0#23 date=06/28/03 at 14:41:00]
G. with: crescent wrench, television, lathe, dentist's chair, Maglight (tm); without: Philip's screwdriver, vibrosander, spoon, dice, battery

G. [hide]Things you adjust[/hide]


Title: Re: Attribute
Post by NickH on Jul 6th, 2003, 2:27pm
maryl, your answer to I, above, was not what I had in mind.  For one, you can certainly have a boar without a monkey!

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by TenaliRaman on Jul 6th, 2003, 2:35pm
ok this is a dumb answer!
I : [Hide] the with's share atleast one letter with the without's.
like "err"or -- co"rre"ction,
a kn'o't -- a r'o'pe,
a kn'i'ght -- a b'i'shop,
a 't'oon -- an ar't'ist,
a b'o'ar -- a m'o'nkey..

If this is right,please ignore the first line  ;D
[/Hide]

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by NickH on Jul 6th, 2003, 2:51pm
That's not what I had in mind, either!

Don't forget the general form of the attribute puzzle.  All the items in the first list share a particular attribute.  The second list is of some items lacking the attribute.

Title: Re: Attribute
Post by maryl on Jul 8th, 2003, 1:33pm

on 07/06/03 at 14:27:51, NickH wrote:
maryl, your answer to I, above, was not what I had in mind.  For one, you can certainly have a boar without a monkey!


Nick, I changed my answer to I above, see if that makes any more sense.



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