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(Message started by: pcbouhid on Dec 1st, 2005, 9:32am)

Title: Writing special fractions
Post by pcbouhid on Dec 1st, 2005, 9:32am
Using all the digits 1-9 once, write a fraction that is equal to 2. Do the same to achieve 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by hasup on Dec 9th, 2005, 7:11am
[hideb]
2=13458/6729
3=17469/5823
4=15768/3942
5=13845/2769
6=17658/2943
[/hideb]

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JohanC on Dec 9th, 2005, 8:03am
10 isn't possible with these rules, and I don't see a way to make 11.
Here are some higher numbers:
[hideb]73548 / 6129 = 12
81549 / 6273 = 13
27384 / 1956 = 14
27945 / 1863 = 15
98352 / 6147 = 16
91426 / 5378 = 17
28674 / 1593 = 18
51984 / 2736 = 19[/hideb]

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by fatball on Dec 9th, 2005, 11:34am
[hideb]7=16758/2394
8=25496/3187
9=57429/6381[/hideb]

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by pcbouhid on Dec 9th, 2005, 11:57am
[hide]Nice work, all of you, specially JC that got beyond the limits... and I must confess that I didnīt even try (to achieve 11, 12...) when I read about this problem.[/hide]

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by fatball on Dec 9th, 2005, 12:23pm
One thing we know for sure is that [hide]it won't work for any numbers ending in 0 (not allowed to use) or 1 (always ending up in same digit, thus violating the rule)[/hide].

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JohanC on Dec 11th, 2005, 1:25pm
Yes, fatball, very good observation!
Keep on pushing the limits!

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JocK on Dec 11th, 2005, 1:43pm
[hideb]
154638 / 7029  =  22
134067 / 5829  =  23
143208 / 5967  =  24
172350 / 6894  =  25
120978 / 4653  =  26
102546 / 3798  =  27
129780 / 4635  =  28
105792 / 3648  =  29
[/hideb]

End so on for 32, 33...

[hide]36[/hide] seems to be the first number not ending in '0' or '1' that can not be written in the form of a pan-digit fraction.

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by pcbouhid on Dec 11th, 2005, 2:48pm
Jock, 0 is not allowed in the original, but itīs a good idea to change it (digits from 0-9), and ask for how many expressions one can write.  :o

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JocK on Dec 11th, 2005, 3:04pm
i c.... (sorry, typical error from my side: starting working on the problem without properly reading the question ...  ::) )

[hide]25[/hide] is the smallest positive number not ending in "0" or "1" that can not be represented by a pan-digit fraction that uses the digits 1-9 all once.


Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JocK on Dec 11th, 2005, 3:31pm
The next challenge:

What are the largest subsequent integers that can both be represented in a fraction that uses the digits 1-9 each once?

E.g. The pair (23, 24) does the job:

23  =  36294 / 1578
24  =  39528 / 1647

but it is certainly not the largest such pair!




Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by Grimbal on Dec 12th, 2005, 12:23am
87654312/9 = 9739368
87654321/9 = 9739369

Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by JocK on Dec 12th, 2005, 3:30am
I was hoping for a long race leading to ever larger pairs...

Well done! (I think we may safely assume this pair to be the largest possible ...  :) )



Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by info terbaru on Dec 13th, 2013, 6:35am
this should be in hard section  ;D

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Title: Re: Writing special fractions
Post by UgoLocal02 on Jun 12th, 2014, 1:13am
81549 / 6273 = 13
27384 / 1956 = 14
27945 / 1863 = 15
98352 / 6147 = 16
91426 / 5378 = 17
28674 / 1593 = 18
51984 / 2736 = 19



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