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(Message started by: Aryabhatta on Mar 31st, 2008, 11:13am)
Title: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Mar 31st, 2008, 11:13am
I intend this thread to be similar to the Rebus thread we had... people post cryptic crossword clue(s) and the others try to solve it. Apologies if there is already a thread...

If you don't know what a cryptic crossword is, you can find information here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword


To start off, here is one:

1) cut cut cut (6,2)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by FiBsTeR on Mar 31st, 2008, 2:21pm
Does the (6,2) refer to something about the length of the clue, or is that part of the puzzle?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Mar 31st, 2008, 3:17pm
(6,2) means answer is two words, one 6 letters long and the other 2 letters long.

So, yes, it talks about the length of the answer and is (usually) not part of the clue.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Mar 31st, 2008, 10:46pm
To get the ball rolling, [hide]divide up[/hide]?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 1st, 2008, 1:21am

on 03/31/08 at 22:46:46, ThudanBlunder wrote:
To get the ball rolling, [hide]divide up[/hide]?


No... but, If you can show how it fits...
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Grimbal on Apr 1st, 2008, 2:04am
[hide]censor[/hide] [hide]it[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by mikedagr8 on Apr 1st, 2008, 2:23am
[hide]action go[/hide] randomly comes into my mind...
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 1st, 2008, 9:53am
None so far. I suggest, with your answer you also include how it fits the clue. That way if a clue permits more than one answer, we can agree to that.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 1st, 2008, 11:31am
I think I've got one that fits
[hide]nicked it:
nick, edit=cut, cut
and the third cut is the real definition[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 1st, 2008, 1:01pm
That answer may not be what you had in mind, but just in case it is, I suppose I'm up for the next clue.
If your clue was 1 across, mine is an intersecting down. But I won't say where it intersects yet. And if my first answer was wrong, it may not intersect at all. But I'm going to try to make this an actual crossword.

No sound before thugs take back streets (13)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 1st, 2008, 5:04pm
Your answer is acceptable tohuvabohu, though I had a different answer in mind! [hide] editedIT, first cut = edit,second cut = edit, third cut = the meaning[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Apr 1st, 2008, 7:57pm

on 04/01/08 at 13:01:17, tohuvabohu wrote:
No sound before thugs take back streets (13)



I read it as:
{No sound (music abrev)}{synonym for thug}{ekat}... all means streets.

But the only 13 letter word I can think of for streets is "thoroughfares".

(damn it, my head seems to be filled with cotton wool)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 2nd, 2008, 6:23am
Now that I see it, I think Grimbal actually got it first, but he was being cryptic.  So the first intersecting clue should belong to him. (My clue doesn't link with the correct 1 across, unless it's not 1 across. So let's just table this clue until we find somewhere it fits).
Noke, your head isn't completely filled with cotton wool. You missed a couple cryptic clues, but you're in the right area.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Grimbal on Apr 2nd, 2008, 6:33am
Uh... could you please tell me how to decrypt my clue?  Not that I don't know (how silly, who would believe that?  Hey, I wrote the clue!), but I want to check that you've got it right.
::)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 2nd, 2008, 6:47am
Okay, maybe not. I just thought censoring could be a cryptic reference to a type of editing, without using the offending word. It was your suggestion of using "it" as the second half that gave me my aha moment, and I thought it might not just have been coincidentally correct. Plus the fact that your guess didn't make any sense at all as a serious guess.
For a really cryptic hint at the right answer how about [hide]ebbtides[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Grimbal on Apr 2nd, 2008, 7:05am
My answer was just because when you censor a movie you just cut here and there, you cut, cut, cut.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 4th, 2008, 11:09am
Well, my cryptic seems to have killed this thread. Before everybody goes home for the weekend, maybe I need to give a clue or two, or suggest others go ahead and post additional cryptics without waiting for solutions.

Hints:
[hide]I was going for a 1 down answer to link with "nicked it" so the first letter is N.[/hide]

[hide]The straight clue within the clue needs to be interpreted a little more broadly than Noke was thinking. [/hide]

[hide]a couple standard cryptic code words that Noke missed in attempting to parse the riddle: sound and before[/hide]

And a second cryptic that I thought of at the same time, but couldn't quite get the wording the way I'd like it, but maybe it's a little easier anyway:

To be or not, East to West, a man yet not. (5)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Apr 5th, 2008, 6:27am
I've not got any new clue to offer, but the answer to tohuvabohu's is:

[hide]neighborhoods[/hide]

Reasoning:

[hide][No sounds] Neigh [before [...] take (rob) back] bor [thugs] hoods[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Apr 6th, 2008, 4:22pm
I blame the Aussie cryptic crosswords.
They're disappointingly easy, I got very out of practice.


Ummm, a meagre one...

Their corpse set to dance (11)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 7th, 2008, 10:30am
I solved Noke's, but I won't give it away because I used some help to figure it out.
Thought I'd offer one more:

Two coppers remember half a salad vegetable. (8)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Apr 7th, 2008, 4:19pm
that's eight letters, right?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 7th, 2008, 5:15pm
Sorry, I keep forgetting to include the length. Yes it's 8 and the puzzle has been corrected.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 8th, 2008, 8:05am
Two coppers remember half a salad vegetable. (8 )
[hide] Cu Cu remember [/hide]

Since Noke's clue was solved (I didn't get it, though, I guess it is [hide] anagram of their corpse [/hide]), I will post a another one:

Anaesthetic song? (6)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Apr 9th, 2008, 10:30pm
yes. It was terpsichore... (http://www.answers.com/terpsichore&r=67)


Anaesthetic song?...
Snores?

The shortest anaesthetic I could think of was NO.  Otherwise I'm stuck.



Oooooh, what if it was An aesthetic song... anthem
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 10th, 2008, 9:17am
Neither snores nor anthem (which I suppose you were convinced of being wrong already).
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 10th, 2008, 9:56am
Anaesthetic song [hide]number[/hide]

Another one that I can't quite word to my satisfaction, but I'll try it out on you:

Set articles right, left, left, beginning at the end, as if you mean it. (9)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 10th, 2008, 10:20am
Correct! tohuvabohu.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 10th, 2008, 12:42pm
I don't know if the plan was to take these cryptics one at a time, but a couple more came to me that I'd like to try out on you.

Shades of serenaded young ladies (10)

East meets West with honor (6)

And I'm still looking for an answer to

To be or not to be East to West a man yet not a man. (5)
(I know I've changed the wording a couple times. If anyone figures it out, tell me how you think it should have been phrased)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 15th, 2008, 2:21pm
I am stumped, tohuvabohu! But please don't reveal the answer too soon. Perhaps as a hint you can reveal a letter...
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 15th, 2008, 6:07pm
How about if we fit everything together into one crossword grid?
Let's see if this works:


. . . . . . . . . . .1_ . . .

. . .2_ . N . . . . . _ . . .

. . C U C U M B E R . _ . . .

. T . _ . M . . . .6_ _7_ _ .

N E I G H B O R H O O D S . .

. R . _ . E . . . . _ . _ . .

. P . _ . R . . . . _ . _ . .

. S . _ . .9_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

. I . _ . . _ . . . . . _ . .

. C . E D I T E D I T . . . .

. H . _ . . _ . . . . . . . .

. O . . . . _ . . . . . . . .

. R . . . . _ . . . . . . . .

. E . . . . . . . . . . . . .



Clues
1 down: Whispering is not allowed sound (5 )
2 down: Shades of serenaded young ladies (10 )
3 down: Anaesthetic song (6 )
4 across: Two coppers remember half a salad vegetable (8 )
5 down: Their corpse set to dance (11 )
6 down: To be or not to be, East, West, a man who's not "to be" (5 )
6 across: Regretted impolite sound (4 )
7 down: East meets west with honor (6 )
8 across: No sound before thugs take back streets (13 )
9 across: Set articles right, left, left, beginning at the end, like you mean it (9 )
9 down: strange dearth of hostility (6 )
10 across: Cut, cut, cut (6,2 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 15th, 2008, 6:20pm
I say, that is an excellent idea.
Perhaps we should create the final partially filled grid now itself with spaces for other clues (i.e instead of . in your ascii image, let us fix the grid by putting in _ at the right spots)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 15th, 2008, 6:36pm
I think we maybe need to wait until these clues are solved, and let the future clue writers find a good spot for a good word. There's also probably a much more efficient (or easily expandable) grid than the one I came up with.

All those dots are unfortunate, but when I tried printing it with just spaces, the forum software insisted on reformatting multiple spaces. If someone knows how to correct that, it might look better.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 19th, 2008, 7:00am
I added a few more clues that I think are fairly simple, to help you figure out the first letter of the unsolved clues.  I hope people haven't given up on these.
I also realized that in cryptic clues some types of clues have to be across, some have to be down. I didn't correctly follow that guideline in this grid, so a future reworking of the grid might be necessary.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Apr 19th, 2008, 11:59am

on 04/15/08 at 18:07:46, tohuvabohu wrote:
How about if we fit everything together into one crossword grid?
Let's see if this works:

Modifying your graphic slightly, and incorporating my new answers:

# # # # # # # # # # #1[hide]A[/hide] # # #

# # #2_ #3N # # # # # [hide]L[/hide] # # #

# #4C U C U M B E R # [hide]O[/hide] # # #

#5T # _ # M # # # #6[hide]R[/hide] [hide]U[/hide]7[hide]E[/hide] [hide]D[/hide] #

8N E I G H B O R H O O D S # #

# R # _ # E # # # # _ # [hide]T[/hide] # #

# P # _ # R # # # # _ # [hide]E[/hide] # #

# S # _ # #9_ _ _ _ _ _ [hide]E[/hide] _ _

# I # _ # # _ # # # # # [hide]M[/hide] # #

# C #10E D I T E D|I T # # # #

# H # _ # # _ # # # # # # # #

# O # # # # _ # # # # # # # #

# R # # # # _ # # # # # # # #

# E # # # # # # # # # # # # #



Clues
1 down: Whispering is not allowed sound (5 )
2 down: Shades of serenaded young ladies (10 )
3 down: Anaesthetic song (6 )
4 across: Two coppers remember half a salad vegetable (8 )
5 down: Their corpse set to dance (11 )
6 down: To be or not to be, East, West, a man who's not "to be" (5 )
6 across: Regretted impolite sound (4 )
7 down: East meets west with honor (6 )
8 across: No sound before thugs take back streets (13 )
9 across: Set articles right, left, left, beginning at the end, like you mean it (9 )
9 down: strange dearth of hostility (6 )
10 across: Cut, cut, cut (6,2 )[/quote]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 19th, 2008, 2:15pm
9 Down looks like [hide]hatred[/hide].
For 2 Down [hide]burgundies[/hide] fits.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 19th, 2008, 6:59pm
I wrote a quick image generator to help us view the grid better.

http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=14&name=G R I D 1&1=1,12,,ALOUD&2=2,4,,:SUNGLASSES&3=2,6,,NUMBER&4=3,3,CUCUMBER,&5=4,2,,TERPSICHORD&6=4,11,RUED,&7=4,13,,ESTEEM&8=5,1,NEIGHBORHOODS,&9=8,7,:HEARTFELT,HATRED&10=10,4,EDITEDIT,

The url used was:
[edit]Removed long url. Please see the url of above image.[/edit]

In the url you give the width, height and for each clue number, you give the row, column, across letters, down letters. The usage should be pretty clear. (I expect bugs, so please let me know if you find something weird).


For example, for clue 1, we give 1=1,12,,ALOUD.

As the grid changes, all we would need to change is the url.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 20th, 2008, 3:15am
Burgundies is not correct. The correct answer will be very obvious once you think of it.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 20th, 2008, 5:37am

on 04/20/08 at 03:15:21, tohuvabohu wrote:
The correct answer will be very obvious once you think of it.

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 20th, 2008, 10:47am
Correct.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 20th, 2008, 9:21pm
9 across looks like [hide] heartfelt [/hide]

So we are upto:
1 down: Whispering is not allowed sound (5 )
2 down: Shades of serenaded young ladies (10 )
3 down: Anaesthetic song (6 )
4 across: Two coppers remember half a salad vegetable (8 )
5 down: Their corpse set to dance (11 )
6 down: To be or not to be, East, West, a man who's not "to be" (5 )
6 across: Regretted impolite sound (4 )
7 down: East meets west with honor (6 )
8 across: No sound before thugs take back streets (13 )
9 across: Set articles right, left, left, beginning at the end, like you mean it (9 )[/s]
9 down: strange dearth of hostility (6 )
10 across: Cut, cut, cut (6,2 )

Only one clue left:
6 down: To be or not to be, East, West, a man who's not "to be" (5 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 21st, 2008, 11:36am
Seems like we are likely done with the previous grid.

So here is a new grid (using the image generator, so that it is easy to create partially filled grid images {see url of the image to guess usage}):

Let us call this GRID2. Any clues given for this grid should reference this name in case we have multiple grids being discussed at the same time.

http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=15&autofill=true&name=G R I D 2&1=1,2,!1,!6&2=1,4,!1,!4&3=1,6,!1,!8&4=1,10,!1,!6&5=1,12,!1,!10&6=1,14,!1,!8&7=2,1,!8,!1&8=2,8,!1,!6&9=2,10,!6,!1&10=4,1,!10,!1&11=4,12,!4,!1&12=6,1,!6,!1&13=6,4,!1,!10&14=6,8,!8,!1&15=8,2,!6,!8&16=8,9,!6,!1&17=8,10,!1,!8&18=9,8,!1,!6&19=10,1,!8,!1&20=10,6,!1,!6&21=10,10,!6,!1&22=10,14,!1,!6&23=12,1,!4,!1&24=12,6,!10,!1&25=12,12,!1,!4&26=14,1,!6,!1&27=14,8,!8,!1

Let us try to stick to this grid and start giving clues which fit with previous ones.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 21st, 2008, 1:44pm

on 04/21/08 at 11:36:58, Aryabhatta wrote:
Let us try to stick to this grid and start giving clues which fit with previous ones.

And what if we like words with an odd number of letters?   ;)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 21st, 2008, 1:54pm

on 04/21/08 at 13:44:06, ThudanBlunder wrote:
And what if we like words with an odd number of letters?   ;)


You can always split it into two words ;)

Anyway, feel free to create your own grid and post it here! If you need help using the image generator, please let me know.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 21st, 2008, 2:58pm
Ok. I will start out with a couple of clues for GRID2.

7 Across) Trampled eastern frenzy ( 8 )
2 Down)  In one crazy confusion ( 4 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 21st, 2008, 6:23pm
GRID2

5 Down & 25 Down: (3,3,3,1,4)    
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 21st, 2008, 9:59pm

on 04/21/08 at 18:23:32, ThudanBlunder wrote:
GRID2

5 Down & 25 Down: (3,3,3,1,4)    


Is that the whole clue?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 21st, 2008, 10:03pm

on 04/21/08 at 21:59:08, Aryabhatta wrote:
Is that the whole clue?

Yep, that is all.    :P
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:12am

on 04/21/08 at 22:03:04, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Yep, that is all.    :P


Weird :P. A blind guess: [hide] odd one for a clue [/hide]. Close?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:18am

on 04/22/08 at 00:12:22, Aryabhatta wrote:
Close?

Last two words are correct.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:20am

Quote:
GRID1

Only one clue left:
6 down: To be or not to be, East, West, a man who's not "to be" (5 )


I think it is [hide] robot [/hide]  based on an earlier version which was given...

So i think the grid looks like:
http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=14&name=G R I D 1&1=1,12,,ALOUD&2=2,4,,:SUNGLASSES&3=2,6,,NUMBER&4=3,3,CUCUMBER,&5=4,2,,TERPSICHORD&6=4,11,RUED,:ROBOT&7=4,13,,ESTEEM&8=5,1,NEIGHBORHOODS,&9=8,7,:HEARTFELT,HATRED&10=10,4,EDITEDIT,

(Please pardon the attempt at trying to provide the hide, select to unhide functionality for images. Barely works and that too only with IE :(. If someone has any ideas, please let me know)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 23rd, 2008, 1:50pm
I'm pretty sure I know 7 across, and think I know 2 down.
If the second letter of 7 across is a T, then

1 down: A partial victory in court ( 6 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 23rd, 2008, 2:06pm
And if the last letter of 2 down is a K then

10 across:

Edit: clue removed because it didn't fit. I'll save this one for anotther spot
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 2:40pm

on 04/23/08 at 13:50:26, tohuvabohu wrote:
If thesecond letter of 7 across is a T,


That is correct.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 3:11pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:06:58, tohuvabohu wrote:
And if the last letter of 2 down is a K then


Not what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 23rd, 2008, 3:46pm
In that case, the last letter of 2 down must be a D

And I'll change 10 across to

10 across: Antelope makes a strange edible stew ( 10 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 23rd, 2008, 4:03pm

on 04/23/08 at 15:46:05, tohuvabohu wrote:
10 across: Antelope makes a strange edible stew ( 10 )

10 Across:[hide]wildebeest[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 4:24pm

on 04/23/08 at 13:50:26, tohuvabohu wrote:
1 down: A partial victory in court ( 6 )


1 down: [hide] ATRIUM [/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 6:53pm
12 across) A lesson without ethics? ( 6 )
3 down) Companies blame bad instruments ( 8 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 7:01pm
This is the situation so far (please let me know if I have missed any clue). The unsolved ones are in red.  The ones in green are filled in the grid.

Note: will include updates from posts below.


http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=15&autofill=true&name=G R I D 2
&1=1,2,!1,ATRIUM
&2=1,4,!1,AMID
&3=1,6,!1,CEMBALOS
&4=1,10,!1,!6
&5=1,12,!1,!10
&6=1,14,!1,!8
&7=2,1,STAMPEDE,!1
&8=2,8,!1,!6
&9=2,10,!6,!1
&10=4,1,WILDEBEEST,!1
&11=4,12,!4,!1
&12=6,1,AMORAL,!1
&13=6,4,!1,!10
&14=6,8,!8,!1
&15=8,2,RACIST,!8
&16=8,9,!6,!1
&17=8,10,!1,!8
&18=9,8,!1,!6
&19=10,1,!8,!1
&20=10,6,!1,!6
&21=10,10,!6,!1
&22=10,14,!1,!6
&23=12,1,!4,!1
&24=12,6,!10,!1
&25=12,12,!1,!4
&26=14,1,!6,!1
&27=14,8,!8,!1
Across    Down
7) Trampled eastern frenzy (8)

10) Antelope makes a strange edible stew (10)

12) A lesson without ethics? (6)

15) Abstract rat [sic] is prejudiced (6)
    1) A partial victory in court (6)
2) In one crazy confusion (4)
3) Companies blame bad instruments (8)

5 Down & 25 Down: (3,3,3,1,4)

8 Down) Pun it again? (6)

15) Agents of true mountains (8)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 23rd, 2008, 7:47pm

on 04/23/08 at 18:53:12, Aryabhatta wrote:
12 across) A lesson without ethics? ( 6 )

12 Across: [hide]amoral[/hide]?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 7:49pm

on 04/23/08 at 19:47:38, ThudanBlunder wrote:
12 Across: [hide]amoral[/hide]?


Correct. Does not fit too well?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 23rd, 2008, 7:59pm

on 04/23/08 at 19:49:11, Aryabhatta wrote:
Correct. Does not fit too well?

Looks fine to me, but I don't understand your 1 Down.   :-/
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 23rd, 2008, 8:01pm

on 04/23/08 at 19:59:07, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Looks fine to me, but I don't understand your 1 Down.   :-/


[hide] A + TRIUMPH = in court [/hide] Seems reasonable to me, but  might not be what tohuvabohu wanted.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Apr 24th, 2008, 5:01am
I'm still baffled by Grid 1: 9A
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 24th, 2008, 5:31am
Yes, that's what I intended for 1 down.

Explanation of Grid1 9 across

[hide]Set articles right, left, left, beginning at the end, like you mean it
"Set" just indicates some letter rearrangement
"articles"=the a
"right"=r
"left,left"=tfel
"beginning at the end"= move the beginning letter (T) to the end
=heartfelt. "Like you mean it" is a poor definition of heartfelt, sincerely would be better, but I wanted something you couldn't just look up on thesaurus.com[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 24th, 2008, 10:35am
Note: I keep updating GRID2 in an earlier post. So, you might want to revisit that periodically.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 24th, 2008, 11:06am
To complete what is solved so far

7 across: [hide]stampede[/hide]
2 down: [hide]amid[/hide]

And I'll add

3 down: [hide]cembalos[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 24th, 2008, 11:33am
Correct tohuvabohu. (Can we call you tvb, please?)

A couple more clues:

15 Across) Abstract rat [sic] is prejudiced (6)

15 down) Agents of true mountains (8)

(sorry if these are too easy, I will try to come up with harder ones next time)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 24th, 2008, 12:26pm

on 04/24/08 at 11:33:48, Aryabhatta wrote:
15 Across) Abstract rat [sic] is prejudiced (6)


15 Across: [hide]racist[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 24th, 2008, 12:49pm
Correct T&B. I corrected spelling of 15 down.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 24th, 2008, 4:09pm
8 Down) Pun it again? (6)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 28th, 2008, 11:56pm

on 04/24/08 at 16:09:38, ThudanBlunder wrote:
8 Down) Pun it again? (6)


I am stumped. Same with 5 & 25 down.

Any hints?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Apr 29th, 2008, 12:25am

on 04/28/08 at 23:56:31, Aryabhatta wrote:
I am stumped. Same with 5 & 25 down.
Any hints?

I am surprised you can't get 5 & 25 down.
The middle word is [hide]not[/hide].

As for 8 Down, I'm not sure it is a standard sort of clue either.
Rephrase the clue to make a synonym, and the answer is an example of it.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Apr 29th, 2008, 12:44am

on 04/29/08 at 00:25:31, ThudanBlunder wrote:
I am surprised you can't get 5 & 25 down.


I am not  :P
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on May 8th, 2008, 12:31am
for 5 & 25 down is it: [hide] two had not a clue [/hide]?

or did you mean not is the middle word in the first 3 words?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on May 8th, 2008, 12:34am
This is the situation so far (please let me know if I have missed any clue). The unsolved ones are in red.  The ones in green are filled in the grid.

Note: will include updates from posts below.


http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=15&autofill=true&name=G R I D 2
&1=1,2,!1,ATRIUM
&2=1,4,!1,AMID
&3=1,6,!1,CEMBALOS
&4=1,10,!1,!6
&5=1,12,!1,HASNOTGOTA
&6=1,14,!1,!8
&7=2,1,STAMPEDE,!1
&8=2,8,!1,ELEVEN
&9=2,10,!6,!1
&10=4,1,WILDEBEEST,!1
&11=4,12,!4,!1
&12=6,1,AMORAL,!1
&13=6,4,!1,!10
&14=6,8,EVENTUAL,!1
&15=8,2,RACIST,REALTORS
&16=8,9,!6,!1
&17=8,10,!1,!8
&18=9,8,!1,!6
&19=10,1,!8,!1
&20=10,6,!1,!6
&21=10,10,!6,!1
&22=10,14,!1,!6
&23=12,1,!4,!1
&24=12,6,!10,!1
&25=12,12,!1,CLUE
&26=14,1,!6,!1
&27=14,8,!8,!1
Across    Down
7) Trampled eastern frenzy (8)

10) Antelope makes a strange edible stew (10)

12) A lesson without ethics? (6)
14) In the end, a significant occurrence was finished by elements of nuclear fuel and baking foil. (8)

15) Abstract rat [sic] is prejudiced (6)
    1) A partial victory in court (6)
2) In one crazy confusion (4)
3) Companies blame bad instruments (8)

5 Down & 25 Down: (3,3,3,1,4)

8) Pun it again? (6)
13) In actual surroundings, one promising start in two hundred is mutual  (10)
15) Agents of true mountains (8)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on May 8th, 2008, 12:46am

on 05/08/08 at 00:31:00, Aryabhatta wrote:
or did you mean not is the middle word in the first 3 words?

Yes.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on May 8th, 2008, 12:46pm
[hide] Did not get a clue [/hide] ?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on May 8th, 2008, 1:30pm

on 05/08/08 at 12:46:21, Aryabhatta wrote:
[hide] Did not get a clue [/hide] ?

Wrong tense.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Three Hands on May 12th, 2008, 12:09pm
[hide]has not got a clue[/hide]?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on May 12th, 2008, 12:13pm

on 05/12/08 at 12:09:09, Three Hands wrote:
[hide]has not got a clue[/hide]?

Yes, finally!
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jun 21st, 2008, 5:39pm
To resurrect this thread, [hide]8 Down is ELEVEN, a repunit[/hide].
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Jun 22nd, 2008, 6:56am
14A: In the end, a significant occurrence was finished by elements of nuclear fuel and baking foil. (8 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jun 22nd, 2008, 7:57am

on 06/22/08 at 06:56:31, rmsgrey wrote:
14A: In the end, a significant occurrence was finished by elements of nuclear fuel and baking foil. (8 )

[hide]EVENTFUL[/hide]?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jun 22nd, 2008, 9:48am
Close, but I don't think so. [hide]Keep trying, you'll get it, umm, sooner or later[/hide]

Might as well finish up 15 down as well
[hide]realtors[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jun 22nd, 2008, 10:07am

on 06/22/08 at 09:48:47, tohuvabohu wrote:
Close, but I don't think so. Keep trying, you'll get it, umm, sooner or later

Yes, eventually.
(Nice clue.)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:58am
To keep things going:

13 Down: In actual surroundings, one promising start in two hundred is mutual.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Jun 23rd, 2008, 1:28pm
Right about 15 down tohuvabohu.

For 13 down: [hide] Reciprocal [/hide]

Also I have updated the grid (first post on page #4).
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jun 23rd, 2008, 2:00pm
I realize that last answer severely limits the possibilities for 23 across, but this one might do

23 Across: Aircraft carrier, lost, ruined, sunk by kamikazes (2,2)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jun 23rd, 2008, 6:43pm

on 06/23/08 at 14:00:29, tohuvabohu wrote:
23 Across: Aircraft carrier, lost, ruined, sunk by kamikazes (2,2)

[hide]St Lo[/hide]

11 Across: umop-apisdn emordnilap (4)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 5th, 2008, 8:24am
We will finish this puzzle eventually.

11 Across: [hide]NOON[/hide]

4 Down: Briefly, Author rewrote "The Fly" (3,3)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 6th, 2008, 8:07pm

on 07/05/08 at 08:24:10, tohuvabohu wrote:
We will finish this puzzle eventually.

Yes, even two is a quorum. :)

11 Down: [hide]tse-tse[/hide]

23 Across: Half the alphabet is almost elementary (4)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 6th, 2008, 10:54pm
23A..[hide] beta[/hide] seeeeeems to fit the clue, but no the grid.... hmmn
hang on, wasnae St Lo a moment ago?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 6th, 2008, 11:11pm

on 07/06/08 at 22:54:45, Noke Lieu wrote:
23A..[hide] beta[/hide] seeeeeems to fit the clue, but no the grid.... hmmn
hang on, wasnae St Lo a moment ago?

Yeah, you are right. :-[ Damn, it was a nice clue, too.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 6th, 2008, 11:45pm
happened to me too.

Thought of a 19A, if noone objects?

Interfered with picnic lunch?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 7th, 2008, 12:26am

on 07/06/08 at 23:45:51, Noke Lieu wrote:
Thought of a 19A, if noone objects?

Are you aware that 13 Down has been done but not filled in?
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 7th, 2008, 5:27am
yep. Making that 4th letter a p. Had I more time or inclination, I'd bother posting an updated version... but it's bed time!
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 7th, 2008, 6:47am
I think TandB's clue was [hide]atom [/hide]
19A [hide]hampered[/hide]

An updated grid (without 19A until confirmed)

http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=15&autofill=true&name=G R I D 2 &1=1,2,!1,ATRIUM &2=1,4,!1,AMID &3=1,6,!1,CEMBALOS &4=1,10,!1,TSETSE &5=1,12,!1,HASNOTGOTA &6=1,14,!1,!8 &7=2,1,STAMPEDE,!1 &8=2,8,!1,ELEVEN &9=2,10,!6,!1 &10=4,1,WILDEBEEST,!1 &11=4,12,NOON,!1 &12=6,1,AMORAL,!1 &13=6,4,!1,RECIPROCAL &14=6,8,EVENTUAL,!1 &15=8,2,RACIST,REALTORS &16=8,9,!6,!1 &17=8,10,!1,!8 &18=9,8,!1,!6 &19=10,1,!8,!1 &20=10,6,!1,!6 &21=10,10,!6,!1 &22=10,14,!1,!6 &23=12,1,STLO,!1 &24=12,6,!10,!1 &25=12,12,!1,CLUE &26=14,1,!6,!1 &27=14,8,!8,!1
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 7th, 2008, 6:59am
And I'll add one more
6D) Drink devil brew stirred ( 8 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 16th, 2008, 12:23am
Hah, that'd be Lemonade.  

I got to "demon" from the letters...

Oh, yes, Hampered was right- I didn't think it would need confirming....

9 across
Stone bird crushes?

16 a
Girl from the burn point
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 17th, 2008, 10:04am
I was pretty sure about 19, but I also didn't want to post it unhidden right away.

I think 9A might be
[hide]STAVES? ST(one)+ AVES (Latin for birds) = to smash a hole in something[/hide]

Still pondering 16

Since we're on a new page, here's the grid again


http://puzzles.members.winisp.net/Tools/crosswordGen.aspx?width=15&height=15&autofill=true&name=G R I D 2 &1=1,2,!1,ATRIUM &2=1,4,!1,AMID &3=1,6,!1,CEMBALOS &4=1,10,!1,TSETSE &5=1,12,!1,HASNOTGOTA &6=1,14,!1,LEMONADE &7=2,1,STAMPEDE,!1 &8=2,8,!1,ELEVEN &9=2,10,STAVES,!1 &10=4,1,WILDEBEEST,!1 &11=4,12,NOON,!1 &12=6,1,AMORAL,!1 &13=6,4,!1,RECIPROCAL &14=6,8,EVENTUAL,!1 &15=8,2,RACIST,REALTORS &16=8,9,BROOKE,!1 &17=8,10,!1,!8 &18=9,8,!1,ADMITS &19=10,1,HAMPERED,!1 &20=10,6,!1,!6 &21=10,10,ENAMEL,!1 &22=10,14,!1,!6 &23=12,1,STLO,!1 &24=12,6,!10,!1 &25=12,12,!1,CLUE &26=14,1,!6,!1 &27=14,8,!8,!1
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 17th, 2008, 6:21pm
indeed it is staves

18D It's what he says amidst confusion, and...

19 D...it's the way that he says it.

21A Paint the Spanish name "inside".

(don't want to steal too many more opportunities for clues)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 17th, 2008, 6:41pm

on 07/17/08 at 18:21:22, Noke Lieu wrote:
18D It's what he says amidst confusion

18 Down [hide]admits[/hide]


Quote:
19 D

???
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 17th, 2008, 7:17pm
:-[
ummm, 17D, make that.
Just got carried away making a clue that carried over  (they impress me) that I lost track of what numbers they were supposed to be.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 17th, 2008, 7:29pm

on 07/17/08 at 19:17:02, Noke Lieu wrote:
 that I lost track of what numbers they were supposed to be.

What about 18 Down then? ::)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 17th, 2008, 8:04pm
yes, you got 18 D correct.
So did I, for that matter!
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 23rd, 2008, 7:30pm
*ahem*  ;)
16 A ...[hide] the name of [/hide]a girl [hide] whose name could be made[/hide] from [hide] another word for[/hide] burn [hide] followed by a [/hide] point [hide] of a compass[/hide]

more just getting it out before I forget.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 29th, 2008, 12:35pm
16A [hide]Brooke[/hide]
21A [hide]Enamel[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 29th, 2008, 6:40pm
IT"S ALIVE!

yes to brooke,
yes to enamel.

and just to speed up the process, I thought I'd knock out a  few more, if that's alright with you.  

24A... Eight legged decapod? (6,4)
20D... Hasty Slav, we hear (7)
 
I'm torn between
26A...Give Lovelace floating weapons (6)
and
26 A ... 19D, 16 D and  1A (6)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Jul 30th, 2008, 9:17am

on 07/29/08 at 18:40:41, Noke Lieu wrote:
20D... Hasty Slav, we hear (7)


ummm, 20D on the grid is only 6 letters

oh, and [hide]Russian[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 30th, 2008, 11:01am
24A [hide]spidercrab[/hide]
26A [hide]armada[/hide]
or [hide]errata?[/hide]
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 30th, 2008, 6:52pm

on 07/30/08 at 09:17:25, rmsgrey wrote:
ummm, 20D on the grid is only 6 letters

oh, and [hide]Russian[/hide]

ooops!
Umm, make it Hasty slavic country, we hear?
damn it, one day I'll get this "counting" thing right!

tohuvabohu, tick tick tick.... you're getting them faster than I can make them!

Incidently, I'm going to have to change 17 D.. which was [hide]rhetoric[/hide] to...

Agree merger hides problems that will come back. (8 )
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Jul 30th, 2008, 7:47pm
That's going to severely limit the possibilities for 27A.
But this might work:
27A Bottom line insight? I hear Gentlemen's Quarterly will bring you back, as they say, why not. (3,5)

And I'll finish that corner with
22D He passes Bill with an awkward posture. (6)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Aug 6th, 2008, 3:52am
I'll confess- I'm stumped!

I suspect that 22D has become enacts, but don't feel confident about it.
cat posture... passes bill...

As for the other... ???
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by rmsgrey on Aug 6th, 2008, 10:14am

on 08/06/08 at 03:52:54, Noke Lieu wrote:
I'll confess- I'm stumped!

I suspect that 22D has become enacts, but don't feel confident about it.
cat posture... passes bill...

As for the other... ???

enacts is an anagram of stance
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by tohuvabohu on Aug 6th, 2008, 11:00am
Correct on 22D

Maybe I'll try a different clue for 27A

27A Famous last words: "Soldiers retreat! Nine lost." From Cervantes' character.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by monkeybum on Sep 3rd, 2008, 3:54am
wow these are hard.
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Noke Lieu on Sep 3rd, 2008, 5:53pm

on 08/06/08 at 11:00:43, tohuvabohu wrote:
Correct on 22D

Maybe I'll try a different clue for 27A

27A Famous last words: "Soldiers retreat! Nine lost." From Cervantes' character.



AH!!!
A shade of wit and the art of farce...

I get the original clue now- it was tricky because you don't have one, tohuvaboh.

(GIs backwards, QUixOTE)
Title: Re: Cryptic Crossword Clues
Post by Aryabhatta on Sep 13th, 2008, 9:30pm
The grid is finished?

Good job guys...


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