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« on: Nov 10th, 2004, 9:42pm »
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The SF Chronicle has a word game where all the letters are scrambled up and you have to figure out what the word is.  
 
Imagine that a scrambled word is 5 characters long:  
 
How many possible solutions are there?  
What if we know which 5 letters are being used?  
Develop an algorithm to solve the word.
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 12:56am »
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on Nov 10th, 2004, 9:42pm, coolnfundu wrote:
How many possible solutions are there?
::Much less than 265, because most letter combinations are disallowed, and even of those that could be words most won't be. At most a few thousand will be actual words.::  
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What if we know which 5 letters are being used?
::less than 120, probably only a few dozen.::  
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Develop an algorithm to solve the word.
::Preprocessing: Take a dictionary with all 5 letter words, for every word make a key existing of the sorted letters of the word. Sort (lexically) dictionary by key
Lookup: Sort the given letters, do binary search to find all anagrams
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 26th, 2005, 8:30pm »
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How many possible combinations?   What if we know which 5 letters are being used?

 
If you are using all five letters, then there are 5 possible choices for the first letter, 4 for the second, 3 for the third, and 2 for the fourth, so that would be 120.  It ends up being n!.  If any letters are duplicates, then there are fewer.  I think it would go down by d! for each duplicate.  For instance, if you have AABCD, that would be 5!/2!.  If you have AAAAD, that would be 5!/4! (or 5).  If you have AABBB, that would be 5!/2!/3! (or 12).
 
I don't know of a formula to figure out all possible combinations of any letters, but for x letters, the possible combinations for words of length y is x!/(x-y+1)!  I don't know how to account for duplicate letters in that...
 
 
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Develop an algorithm to solve the word.

I've written a web page to do word searches at http://www.jasongoemaat.com/WordSearch.  If anyone is interested, I can send the code.  It uses the enable word list from http://www.puzzlers.org/wordlists/.
 
What I did was sort the characters of each word by letter, then sort the results.  Then when checking for a certain letter combination I sort those letters and do a binary search to find the letters and get the actual words from the list.  
 
To find multiple words given multiple letters, I just try every possible combination.  I sort the letters, then put them in arrays with letters and counts.  Then I step through for each letter and add each possible count of that letter to a string (including 0) to a string and move to the next letter.  For each combination after the last letter, I add it to a list.  When done with that I to a search for each letter combination I created.
 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 28th, 2012, 10:44am »
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can u xplain me clearly abt d pgm
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 9:14am »
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Probably not.  Jgoemat made 3 posts 7 years ago...
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« Reply #5 on: May 13th, 2012, 8:18pm »
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Can you send me info on the word?
 
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« Reply #6 on: May 29th, 2012, 5:02am »
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Are you serious?  developing an algorithm to guess a word from scramble letters sounds like an assignment for the military...
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 12th, 2012, 12:48am »
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There are plenty of anagram generators.
 
You enter a sentence or a set of letters and it returns sets of words that contain the same letters.  If you set it to 1 word only, it should return the possible words for the letters.
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