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« on: Nov 4th, 2002, 2:40pm »
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  In spite of the small number of responses to previous problems I posted, here's another, also taken from a random Putnam.
 
   Suppose S is a finite set of integers greater than 1 with the property that, for every natural number n, there exists an s in S such that gcd(n,s) = 1 or gcd(n,s) = s. Prove that there exist s,t in S such that gcd(s,t) is prime.
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Re: NEW PROBLEM: PRIME GCD  
« Reply #1 on: Nov 5th, 2002, 5:59am »
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Hmm, bummer, methinks the proposition to be proved is wrong.
 
S = {2,3,5} or any finite set of primes would be a counterexample, wouldn't it (IOW, is 1 to be considered a prime?).
 
Furthermore, I think it should be forbidden to allow s=t when testing gcd(s,t) = prime, otherwise the proof would be trivial (and my above counterexample wouldn't be one)
 
Maybe I'm just confused.
 
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Re: NEW PROBLEM: PRIME GCD  
« Reply #2 on: Nov 5th, 2002, 7:09am »
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Well, it doesn't say that s and t have to be distinct, so if S contains any prime, p, then just let s=t=p.
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Re: NEW PROBLEM: PRIME GCD  
« Reply #3 on: Nov 5th, 2002, 8:56am »
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  Jamie is indeed correct, and 1 is NOT a prime. Otherwise the proof would REALLY be trivial. However, the possibility s = t does not render the proof "trivial", unless you're a seasoned number theorist, I guess. This WAS in one of the Putnams, after all, and it was question B-6 (usually only questions A-1 and B-1 are easier). Took me about 5 minutes to come up with the general idea, and another 15 to work out the full details.
 
   So your counterexample is not one, in fact. Smiley Notice that the problem statement does not imply that there are any primes in set S. If you succeed in proving that, then you've solved it. I doubt you'll succeed, though, since S = {4, 6, 9} satisfies the requirements and contains no primes. Shocked
 
   Good luck! Smiley
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