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Homogeneous cubic equation with  no rational  
« on: Oct 31st, 2006, 4:52pm »
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Suppose  f(x,y)  is a homogeneous cubic equation over  Z  that has no nontrivial
roots modulo some prime  p.   (For example,  x^3 - xy^2 + y^3 works for  p=2,3).
 
Show that  
 
f(x_0,x_1)  + p f(x_2, x_3) = 0  
 
has no rational solutions.
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Re: Homogeneous cubic equation with  no ratio  
« Reply #1 on: Dec 11th, 2006, 12:13am »
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Suppose there was indeed a solution (q0,q1,q2,q3) in Q. Let M be the gcd of the denominators of q0,q1, and similarly for N and q2,q3. Write zi=Mqi for i=0,1 and zi=Nqi for i=2,3.
 
Then one may multiply both sides of
 
f(q0,q1)  + p f(q2,q3) = 0
 
by M3N3 to get
 
N3 f(z0,z1)  + pM3 f(z2,z3) = 0
 
since f is homogeneous. Consider the equation
 
N3 f(z0,z1)  = -pM3 f(z2,z3).
 
Since f(x,y) is only ever divisible by p if x and y are, and it is homogeneous of degree 3, then the highest power of p dividing f(x,y) can only ever be a multiple of 3. Same goes for M3 and N3, more trivially (p is a prime). This means that p can only appear as a factor of the left side with exponent 3m; but it appears on the right with exponent 3n+1. Contradiction. Therefore the proposed equation has no rational roots.
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Re: Homogeneous cubic equation with  no ratio  
« Reply #2 on: Jan 5th, 2007, 5:55pm »
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Dang, I didn't see this. I am not seeing NEW stuff on page  
load or getting an email when there is a post. Nice approach!
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