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Re: supertasks
« Reply #25 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 3:18am » |
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on Sep 7th, 2007, 2:47am, towr wrote:No, what I meant was that physically toggling a switch with infinite speeds makes it go back in time; trying to accelerate it to an infinite speed increases its mass to the point you form a black hole; also once it reached light speed, time for the switch stops and it can't go faster; and even at much lower speeds the switch will already be destroyed due to internal material stresses. 
And mathematically speaking the end state is indeterminate. It's equivalent to asking "is the last natural number odd or even", ignoring that there is no such number. |
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #26 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 4:24pm » |
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Actually, it's more like asking if infinity is odd or even and getting that it might not be an integer since it's barely a real number.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #27 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 2:05am » |
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on Sep 7th, 2007, 4:24pm, srn347 wrote:| Actually, it's more like asking if infinity is odd or even and getting that it might not be an integer since it's barely a real number. |
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Listen, seriously now. If you don't know, don't say, as TB's title states or similar...
Infinity is not a real number. Simple proof. Domains and ranges are written with either an '(' or '[' as an opening bracket or ')' ']'. The circular one means not including and the other, including. INFINITY ALWAYS HAS A CIRCULAR BRACKET!!!
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #28 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 8:04am » |
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That is irelevant. I have already asked the next supertask riddle.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #29 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 8:11am » |
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And I've already answered it. [text removed for spring cleaning]
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #30 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 11:55am » |
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You haven't said how much space in terms of the first machine they will take up total.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #31 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 12:48pm » |
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I gave the siszes of the individual machines; from there it's just a matter of summation: "just before" an hour the assembled machines will have total size 2. "just after" an hour they will have total size 3.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #32 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 2:31pm » |
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Ok. Next supertask. A person tries to run a mile, but an infinite amount of gods try to stop him. If he runs half a mile, the first one paralysis him, if he runs a quarter mile, the second one paralysis him, etc. When does he get paralysed?
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #33 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 8:22am » |
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I think we all have a decent understanding of limits now. We do not require another carbon-copy "supertask."
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #34 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 10:15am » |
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If you all have an understanding of it, one of you answer it.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #35 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 10:42am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2007, 10:15am, srn347 wrote:| If you all have an understanding of it, one of you answer it. |
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Why? You don't have an understanding of it and won't accept the right answer when we give it. What's the point then?
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #36 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 11:45am » |
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We won't know that until someone answers.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #39 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 7:10pm » |
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OK, I'll bite: he is paralyzed as soon as he moves a distance of 1/ 0 toward his goal.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #40 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 7:15pm » |
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A number, I need a number.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #41 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 12:08am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2007, 7:15pm, srn347 wrote:| A number, I need a number. |
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That was a number; see what I mean, there's no point.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #42 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 12:44am » |
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Let's see: "If he runs half a mile, the first one paralysis him, if he runs a quarter mile, the second one paralysis him, etc." it follows logically that if he runs 0 mile the third one paralyzes him and if he runs -1/4 mile, the fourth one paralyzes him. So a possible answer is that he gets paralyzed on the spot by deity #3.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #43 on: Sep 10th, 2007, 12:45am » |
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What a curious situation we seem to be in.
I've tried to resist posting about this quandry, but I guess I finally caved.
I am surprised that it has taken as long as it has to attract such a character. It's been close a couple of times-
by no means is srn347 alone in their unwaivering obstinance, undiminishable sense of self-importance and ability to promote a sense of disharmony. Anyone remember the godfathers that were here a year or two ago? They come, they go.
In essence, and I remember saying the following about another blackguard that was frequenting this venerable site a while back (and equally using it as a source of puerile entertainment for themselves by constipating our somewhat cerebral musings)
They're intimidated by us, and we don't care about them. Good enough for me.
Doubtless, srn347 is bound to retort in some witless manner, presumably using shadowing, underlining and italics (congratualtions on mastering that, but between you and me- it's just hard to read rather than looking authoratitve)
The problem with arguing with many students is they're too self-obsessed to realise that they're bettered, and end up performing to an audience. So it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if snr347
is some highschooler boasting to their friend(s) how irritated they gets us.
The irony is that individually, I don't care about this person. I am not irritated by their behaviour, more disappointed. (offending remark)
so, to put it blunty srn347 we don't care. we don't care.
We want to be able to care about you, but we don't care.
You're not signifcant enough (really, we don't care)in our daily lives for us to invest (we don't care) any emotion in you.
We don't care.
Your current attitude and lack of respect to us further consolidates our intellectual apathy towards you.
I realise that there seems very little point in asking you to disist with your current course of action, but I implore you to at least consider it.
Goodbye snr347, we shall not converse. (monologues aren't conversations)
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #44 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 4:57pm » |
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He does get paralyzed at 0 mile, but not by the third one. He gets paralyzed by the last one(not that there is a last one).
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #45 on: Sep 11th, 2007, 7:19pm » |
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on Sep 10th, 2007, 12:45am, Noke Lieu wrote:
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #46 on: Sep 13th, 2007, 9:48pm » |
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With those comments, I don't know how people have the odasity to say I'm a spammer instead of you people.
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #47 on: Sep 14th, 2007, 1:06am » |
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on Sep 13th, 2007, 9:48pm, srn347 wrote:| With those comments, I don't know how people have the odasity to say I'm a spammer instead of you people. |
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Odasity ? Don't you mean obesity ? Or maybe opacity ? Perhaps edacity ? English being your first languange, I know for sure you didn't mean audacity..
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #48 on: Sep 14th, 2007, 1:14am » |
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More conclusive proof, he is not a "writer".
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Re: supertasks
« Reply #49 on: Sep 14th, 2007, 7:21pm » |
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Odasity, look it up.
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