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(Message started by: Kitty on Jul 18^th, 2003, 7:05am)

Title: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 18^th, 2003, 7:05am

A boy (Dan) aged 12 was found dead at the bottom of a public swimming pool. He had gone swimming with his parents, his mum's friend and his girl-friend. The swimming pool had been empty apart from a man doing laps. The boy was a great swimmer so it is believed he was murdered.

What happened?

Suspects:

1. mother
2. father
3. life-guard
4. his girl-friend (Caz)
5. mother's friend
6. man doing laps

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by wowbagger on Jul 18^th, 2003, 7:38am

How come he was at the bottom?
Did he wear concrete shoes, or was he somehow tied to the ground?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 18^th, 2003, 8:04am

Tied down.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by maryl on Jul 18^th, 2003, 8:09am

on 07/18/03 at 07:05:47, Kitty wrote:

Yeah! Another "Who done it".

What do his parents have to say about it?
What time did everybody leave, and who did they leave with?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 18^th, 2003, 8:20am

1. Mother: i don't understand. How could he die? Who would want to kill him. (she burst into tears .)
Father: Why him? Why? It all my fault. It was my idea to go swimming to meet his girl-friend, it all my fault. We should not have gone. But why him?

2. The body was found by Caz. She was very upset and when the ambulance came she want to go on. She left with Dan's mother's friend who took her home. The parents when to the hospital. The man, after trying to help, left alone.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Icarus on Jul 18^th, 2003, 3:56pm

Based on the thread title, I say it was the work of Dark Elves! 8)

Ask them all where they were when he died. How come they did not see it if they were all there at the pool?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 19^th, 2003, 8:46am

1. mother = taking between adults in shallow end
2. father = dito
3. life-guard = falling asleep
4. his girl-friend (Caz) = they were playing it and he was up so she was swimming away from him.
5. mother's friend = see 1 +2
6. man doing laps = busy swimming.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by maryl on Jul 19^th, 2003, 8:56am

Were there any marks on his body;
Was there any evidence found at the bottom of the pool or on or around his body?
How was he tied down?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 20^th, 2003, 12:46pm

1. Scratches, like he's been in a fight.
2. Locker key
3. Around his ankle and the water sucker thing ( No idea whats it called) in the deep end.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 20^th, 2003, 5:46pm

1. Check under the fingernails of suspects for skin of Dan.
2. Whose stuff is in the locker?
3. did the 'man doing laps' knew Dan or his parents?

At this point, I think it was a consipiracy between all of them. If Dan was a 'great swimmer', he would have made SOME noise when being pulled down (in a fight). How come no one heard?

BTW: (4) Check Dan's blood for drugs.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 21^st, 2003, 4:05am

1. No one, Caz says it was from a fight at school
2. Danny's and Caz's
3. No one seems to...
4. Sleeping drug

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 21^st, 2003, 5:04am

1. What's in everyone's pockets / bags / lockers... ?
2. Ask Caz who fought Dan at school.
3. How old in the MDL (man doing laps)? What does he look like?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 21^st, 2003, 6:36am

1.
a. mother = Nothing
b. father = Keys, purse
c. life-guard = drugs, cigarettes and lighter
d. Caz = make-up, hair-brush, mirror and purse in her quicksilver bag.
e. mother's friend = Keys
f. MDL = Nothing

2. The bully at school that fancies her

3. 38, like the father. Look normal but has half his face burnt.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 21^st, 2003, 12:05pm

1. Does drug of lifeguard match those found in Dan's blood?
2. Ask MDL how he got his face burnt.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 21^st, 2003, 10:53pm

1. Does Caz fancy the bully also?

2. Is there any relation between the MDL and the bully?

3. Is there any relation between the MDL and Caz?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 8:23am

Bnc

1. No

2. When his school burnt down.

Chewdogscp

1. No, she the kind of pretty girl most boys fancy

2. No

3. No

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 10:51am

1. Did any of the other suspects went to the same school as MDL?

2. How did the school burn down?

3. What is the work nature of the suspects? Any of them a doctor / vet / assistant to them ?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 11:05am

1. dad
2. Sciece experiment gone wrong
3.
a. dad = Lawyer
b. mum = teacher
c. life-guard = duh!!!
d. Caz = ~
e. mum's mate = teacher
f. MDL = Vet

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 12:18pm

Ask the dad what he knows about the school burning down and/or if he had anything to do with the "science experiement gone wrong".

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 3:07pm

His hands got burnt. [hide] perfect criminal, he has no finger prints[/hide]
;)

No, he had nothing to do with the experiment.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 11:07pm

Does the MDL have any grudges against the father from their grade school days?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 22^nd, 2003, 11:37pm

Ask fathet about MDL:
1. Does he have relation with him now?
2. What were their relations back in school?

3. Check MDL office, try to find mismatch between subscription and drug invantory.

4. Is the drug found in Dan's blood used normally on human or animals?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 4:16am

Chewdogscp

no

BNC
Ask father about MDL:
1. hate each other
2. Friends
3. You don't find anything
4. Animals

[hide]Did anyone get the hint in my previous post???[/hide]

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 7:14am

1. Ask father why he hates MDL
2. Ask MDL why he hates father
3. Ask mother and mother's freinds what were Dan's father feelings toward him
4. Ask father why he said "it's all my fault"

As for the hint, [hide]I didn't even see it before... I guess we have to search for fingerprints somewhere... but where?[/hide] maybe:
5. Check fingerprints on Dan's locker -- does it match any of the suspects' fingerprints?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 7:31am

1. Personal reasons
2. Ditto
3. Him as in Dan or MLD?
4. Can't say
5. No finger-print - not what i was trying to hint

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 12:55pm

3. Dan father's feeling toward Dan. In fact, while you're at it, ask everyone if they know of the relations beteen Dan and his old man. Were they fighting a lot? Were they on good terms? Caz may help there too. What I'm trying to find is weither [hide]Dan's father killed him, and is trying to frame MDL[/hide].

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 1:44pm

3. Dan was spoilt. He was an only-child and he father loved him. Caz even says Dan's parents were over-protecting him. None of then can believe he would kill his son (except MLD of course ;D)

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 1:53pm

1. Check everyones hands for 'burn marks' made by rope.

2. Just curious -- did the life-guard sleep because he was drugged too? (check blood)

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 2:16pm

1. No one, the the finger-print on the rope are the MLD's

2. Yeah

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 7:15pm

So i guess the life guard is in the clear, unless [hide]he drugged himself to give him a good alibi[/hide].

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 9:04pm

Closing in on the kill, now don't we?

Ask father why is MDL angry at HIM. Insist on a reason. What are the 'presonal' reasons?

Title: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 24^th, 2003, 5:22am

Chewdogscp

Only 4 more to clear ;)

BNC

Ask father why is MDL angry at HIM?

The father had agreed to do something but had chicken out. The MLD said he would have suffer the consequences.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 24^th, 2003, 7:43am

ask father and MDL separately for details. Come on, you know what I mean... ;)

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 24^th, 2003, 10:23am

Ask the MDL who started the fire at school.

Was the father supposed to help the MDL start the fire, and is that what he chickened out of?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 24^th, 2003, 12:02pm

BNC

You don't get to know more than before.

Chewdogscp

the fire was an accident

Nah, thats not what he chicken out of.

[hide] Prefect criminal [/hide]

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 24^th, 2003, 10:00pm

Do either MDL or Dan's father have a criminal record?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 25^th, 2003, 4:15am

:D

The MDL does.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by maryl on Jul 25^th, 2003, 10:52am

K, what did the MDL's do to get a criminal record.
I guess Dan's father was his lawyer, or refused to be his lawyer.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 25^th, 2003, 10:52am

For doing what?

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by maryl on Jul 25^th, 2003, 10:56am

Ha, we posted at the same time.

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 26^th, 2003, 4:08am

Stealing

I guess Dan's father was his lawyer, or refused to be his lawyer.

Nope, [hide] perfect criminal[/hide]

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by BNC on Jul 26^th, 2003, 11:00pm

Details, details!!!! For stealing what? Under what circumstances?
What was his punishment?
What happend to the loot?

At this point my guess is: [hide]
The killer is the MDL. He was angry at Dan's father for chickening out on the crime. Dan's father, having no fingerprints, could have pulled the perfect crime. After he pulled out, MDL did it, got cougt, and payed the price.
As a revenge, he drugged both the lifeguard and Dan, and then killed Dan.
[/hide]

Title: Re: Drowing
Post by Kitty on Jul 27^th, 2003, 4:29am

You don't really need the details, do you? You've got the answer. ;D