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(Message started by: alien2 on Aug 4th, 2016, 9:25am)

Title: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 4th, 2016, 9:25am
Prove that universe is a box!

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by dudiobugtron on Aug 8th, 2016, 7:57pm
If this were in the easy forum, I'd say [hide]because it has a 'Jack' in it.[/hide]
If it were in medium, I might argue that [hide]the shape of the universe is topologically equivalent to a box.  (Black holes notwithstanding.)[/hide]
If it were in hard, I would [hide]wait for someone more knowledgeable and smarter than me to answer, and then read their post![/hide]

Since it's in 'what happened', though, I'll have to guess that [hide]"The universe" is the name of a particular box. Perhaps one belonging to Pandora?[/hide]

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 9th, 2016, 12:47am
No, no, no and no. But at least you tried.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by towr on Aug 9th, 2016, 8:51am
The universe being a box is no less likely than Trump being a presidential candidate. Since the latter is true, the former must also be true.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 9th, 2016, 9:03am
Give the good man a break. After all, he proposed deportation of all illegal immigrants.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by Grimbal on Aug 19th, 2016, 7:32am
I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by Grimbal on Aug 19th, 2016, 8:42am
I am not mistaken then the universe is a box.

Well, maybe it is true, maybe it is not.  Let's see.

P = I am not mistaken
Q = The universe is a box.

So I claim P => Q.

If I am mistaken, then P => Q is false, but that means P is true and Q is false.  If P is true, then I am NOT mistaken.  This is a contradiction.

Therefore I am not mistaken.  That means P => Q is rue, and since P is true, Q must also be true.  The universe is a box.

QED

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 19th, 2016, 12:27pm

on 08/19/16 at 07:32:32, Grimbal wrote:
I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?

Why?



on 08/19/16 at 08:42:27, Grimbal wrote:
I am not mistaken then the universe is a box.

Well, maybe it is true, maybe it is not.  Let's see.

P = I am not mistaken
Q = The universe is a box.

So I claim P => Q.

If I am mistaken, then P => Q is false, but that means P is true and Q is false.  If P is true, then I am NOT mistaken.  This is a contradiction.

Therefore I am not mistaken.  That means P => Q is rue, and since P is true, Q must also be true.  The universe is a box.

QED

You riddlers baffle me.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 19th, 2016, 12:36pm

on 08/08/16 at 19:57:48, dudiobugtron wrote:
If this were in the easy forum, I'd say [hide]because it has a 'Jack' in it.[/hide]

I'm not sure I follow but it looks to me like you're on the right track.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by Grimbal on Aug 21st, 2016, 8:14am

on 08/19/16 at 07:32:32, Grimbal wrote:
I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?


on 08/19/16 at 12:27:41, alien2 wrote:
Why?


Well, because if the universe is a box, there is nothing outside of the box.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 21st, 2016, 9:09am

on 08/21/16 at 08:14:08, Grimbal wrote:
Well, because if the universe is a box, there is nothing outside of the box.

That's smart. I was initially thinking you was implying that creative thinking isn't necessary in order to solve the riddle. Silly me. Maybe you're right. Since Barrack Obama is often called dumbass, and he is not the only one, maybe it truly is time time for changes.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by rloginunix on Aug 22nd, 2016, 10:38am

on 08/19/16 at 12:27:41, alien2 wrote:
You riddlers baffle me.

On Grimbal's part - a skillful blend of fluffy English and Modus Ponens ... if I am not mistaken.


Without the intention of stealing dudiobugtron's thunder, his idea - his credit, if I read it correctly - universe is an [hide]electronic game console of sort that is a box (a rectangular prism) and it has a power chord and jack - to plug into the wall outlet[/hide].

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 22nd, 2016, 1:15pm
Nice try. I had something else in mind.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by dudiobugtron on Aug 22nd, 2016, 2:04pm

on 08/22/16 at 10:38:11, rloginunix wrote:
Without the intention of stealing dudiobugtron's thunder, his idea - his credit, if I read it correctly

My idea was an allusion to a [hide]jack-in-the-box[/hide]. Since the universe has [hide]a jack in it[/hide], it must be a box.  Your idea is separate and you deserve your own credit.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 23rd, 2016, 1:01am
Again, I don't follow. It appears I can be very bright or rather dumb. In any case, I hope you'll keep looking for the intended answer as well.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Aug 31st, 2016, 6:28am
A hint: Perhaps a part from [hide]Harry Potter[/hide] will direct you on the right track.

Title: Re: Shape of the universe
Post by alien2 on Sep 3rd, 2016, 10:24am
I decided not to torment you anymore. It is a darn [hide]anagram and a difficult one too[/hide]. [hide]Sue Ervin Box. The nam[/hide]e is a bit strange. Is it not?



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