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« Reply #100 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 3:14pm »

on Jun 20th, 2007, 2:08pm, puzzlecracker wrote:
and if the answer is "yes" what would it explain?
It would explain those pigs flying around my flat  
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I said "most" women.  Some women are weird, lesbians, sexually unmotivated...
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So ... Women that don't like to be called sluts during sex are weird, lesbian, sexually unmotivated or at the very least a minority?
That seems a bit unlikely to me. But what do I know.
Besides, it's not easy to do an actual survey on the topic. (I somehow doubt it's something many would admit to even if it were true.)  And going on ones' own experience doesn't generally make for a representative sample, because we all have the types we fall for and types that fall for us.
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« Reply #101 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 3:39pm »

I believe a question about a relationship (between a man and woman) was  blissfully ignored.  First of all, I don't think it's a good idea for a man and woman to have a RELATIONSHIP relationship until after they've known each other for AT LEAST 3-6 months. One of the reasons why a lot of relationships end so BADLY is because the two people didn't take the time to get to know each other first. Also, I think it's a bad idea to talk about other people that you're seeing during that time because almost nothing good can come of it.
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« Reply #102 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 6:23pm »

Hmm..that seems kinda weird to me. If you only start a relationship after 3-6 months, what do you refer to your 3-6 months period ? Acquaintanceship ? Courtship ? Friendship ? How are these different than a relationship ?  
 
By the way puzzlecracker, if you have a girlfriend, do you always 'dirty' sex talk to get what you want ? Cos its kinda hard to imagine a woman accepting that kind of talk day in and day out ( out of pornoland anyway )
 
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« Reply #103 on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:16pm »

*Sorry it took so long for me to reply... I did once but my computer shut off right in the middle of the reply and I had to go somewhere.
JiNbOtAk, thanks for the support. I am pleased to inform you that both women are doing well; one juggling supporting and raising a child on her own but loving life, and the other is still having lasting health problems with her back (and probably will the rest of her life) but she is a tough cookie who has been through a lot. The latter one is one of the most courageous and tenacious people I have ever known. Her back may hurt her but she just sucks it up and keeps pushing herself (sometimes too much) to be the best she can be in whatever she does. I intended these two to serve as examples of why the alarm bells go off in the back of my head when a man speaks of me as a slut, etc because neither of these men appreciated the love these women had for them and treated them like that and called them sluts, etc hitting and abusing them when those women just about would have walked on water to make them happy. I don't think most men are that way and I wouldn't instantly give up on someone who said something like that to me but it does make me evaluate things a little more closely and pay attention to other signs that a healthy relationship could not result.
I agree with you Puzzlecracker that it is important to get to know someone as a friend first but I don't feel you can really set time limits on it as things develop at different speeds for everyone. Hell... my parents dated for 6 years before getting married and had known each other for awhile before that... you just have to let the relationship progress as it will and not force anything. In my humble opinion, the most important thing is to be good friends because at the end of the day it really comes down to "Can I stand this person?" Infatuation fades as does beauty, so wouldn't you rather pick a partner to grow old with that 30-40+ years later you will still have something to talk about with and enjoy their company just for who they are and not how "hot" they looked in high school? A lot of my close friends growing up had to deal with seperations and divorces caused by this lack of thought and it was heartbreaking to watch the children be torn by their love for their parents who were so busy hating each other they never considered the affects on the child they were using as leverage against the other. Thank God I was lucky... my parents and both sets of grandparents all stayed together because they went into the relationship knowing what they wanted in a lifelong partner.
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« Reply #104 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:08am »

THE VERY CORE OF SOCIAL INTERACTION BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN  IS S*XUAL
 
And everybody knows it.  But few admit it.
 
Women categorize men.
 
If the woman thinks that he may be a possibility for the  relationship category, the woman sees the man as the  masculine compliment to her femininity.  The man sees  the woman as the feminine compliment to his masculinity.  And as they enjoy being lovers, they become close friends.
 
I preface the next few paragraphs by saying that I am  talking about intelligent women with high self esteem. Women are often heard saying "friends first."  They are  simply saying that they do not want to be viewed as just a s*x object. They want to be respected as a person, they want to be able to have an emotional relationship  as well. And under those conditions, they want to have h0t passionate s*x!
 
They are not really looking for a "friend."  They're looking for a lover!  A lover with which they can grow to become best friends. And that's perfectly fine.  And men need to understand  that.  And men need to operate within that context.  And men can USE THAT!
 
The "friend" thing can be leveraged to bring a woman closer  to you emotionally, which can be used to bring a woman closer to you s*xually.  
 
But too many men think that in order to get s*xual, they  have to avoid the "friend" thing.  But that doesn't work on the intelligent high self esteem women.
 
If you want to develop a relationship with a woman, you damn well better respect the fact that she wants to have  an emotional relationship (be able to talk to you about  her challenges) while at the same time you damn well better be making sure that she sees you as a s*xual interest.
 
Being "friendly"(allowing her to talk about her challenges) does not disqualify you as a lover.  Quite  the opposite.  It makes you more of a possibility - IF -  she sees you as a s*xual interest.
 
Deflecting her when she wants to talk about her challenges definitely reduces your chances as her lover,  even if she sees you as a s*xual interest.  She begins  to see that you will not be capable of having an emotional relationship with her.
 
And certainly if you do only the "friend" thing, with no s*xual interest, then you definitely will be put into the "friend" category.  And it is near impossible to move from that category.
 
Men need to increase the "s*xual interest" thing while allowing the "friend" thing to develop as an enabler of the s*xual interest.  So long as both are true, the relationship will form.
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« Reply #105 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:48am »

on Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:08am, puzzlecracker wrote:
THE VERY CORE OF SOCIAL INTERACTION BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN  IS S*XUAL
 
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Uh What are you talking about? Don't you have good friends that are of opposite sex? If not and you approach opposite sex with only intention of a sexual relationship, your thinking is really screwed up.
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« Reply #106 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 11:50am »

Puzzlecracker, stop repressing your s*xuality and everything will be just fine.   Roll Eyes
You won't even need to talk dirty with your skank-ass ho's.
 
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« Reply #107 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 7:36am »

ThudanBlunder, stop being a wuss and a nice guy; it  will lead you to a curious dry feeling between your legs. Otherwise, everything will be just fine.
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« Reply #108 on: Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:27am »

Perhaps before making all sorts of silly claims about women, or men for that matter, it might be prudent to actually follow a few courses in, or read some research about, gender-studies.
There is actual science being done on these matters.
 
If you found your niche market and are happy there, fine; but don't haphazardly generalize it to the whole human race. It is very doubtfull that any one person's experiences scale to that extend.
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« Reply #109 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:07pm »

Just be yourself and be nice to all woman that you meet. Make friends with them first before asking them to have a date with you.
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« Reply #110 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:23pm »

on Jul 3rd, 2007, 10:27am, towr wrote:
Perhaps before making all sorts of silly claims about women, or men for that matter, it might be prudent to actually follow a few courses in, or read some research about, gender-studies.
There is actual science being done on these matters.

Not a bad idea, but just keep in mind that this can sometimes be a very irrational subject. If you could just apply a magic formula that would take all the fun out of it and make it way too easy.  Tongue
 
Puzzlecracker did get one thing right (or at least partially as he is a little confused on some of it...) but yes, women categorize men. But this is nothing new... it is the old addage about the first impression being the most important. It is however, possible to change the opinion of your interest if you happen to make an unfavorable first impression for sexual relations. (BTW, what is up with the "s*xual"?) Probably a better idea to come short by being polite than going overkill with the sexual implications from the beginning because you are far more likely to put her off that way. (For the most part only the terrifically easy ones would have no problem with your sex first friends, later approach.) If you chase her off entirely you probably won't get a second chance, but if you approach her as "just friends" first, you will have plenty of opportunity to shift her opinion of you.  
 
And Sameer had a good point Puzzlecracker... how does your love interest feel about you approaching every woman from a sexual relationship standpoint...? Or do you actually know how to not be an ass?
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« Reply #111 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:42pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:23pm, ima1trkpny wrote:
but yes, women categorize men. But this is nothing new...
Indeed; I'd go as far as to say everyone categorizes everything (or tries to, anyway).
 
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it is the old addage about the first impression being the most important.
There is some research suggesting that last impressions are actual more important. Of course, initially the first impression and the last coincide, and if that's enough to avoid someone, c'est la vie.
 
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« Reply #112 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 4:58pm »

on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:23pm, ima1trkpny wrote:
If you chase her off entirely you probably won't get a second chance, but if you approach her as "just friends" first, you will have plenty of opportunity to shift her opinion of you.  

But why does puzzlecracker have to go skulking around trying to hide his boner and talking dirty to himself while plucking up the courage to risk rejection yet again? Why in these days of supposed sexual equality can't some Mae West approach him?
 
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« Reply #113 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 5:19pm »

Well, supposedly he already has a girl friend... or at least that is the way I interpreted his noncommital response. If not, maybe they don't dare approach because they can tell just by looking at him what an attitude he has. I can't speak for every girl, but if some guy really catches my eye and looks like they are interesting to talk to, I do on occasion go break the ice myself. So I would for the most part attribute his any lack of interest to his behavior... as I highly doubt he behaves with any more tact in real life as he does here.  Roll Eyes If he ever learns... he may just be able to get in a relationship with a real woman and not some tramp.
He does have some good points about not being a kissass... but there is a difference between being a kissass and considerate. You don't have to let her trample over you by any means... but for heaven sakes don't slam the door in her face when she is carrying something or the like. It isn't just a "be considerate of women" thing but "be considerate of others" thing. If I see an old man having a hard time breathing, I am seated and there are no other seats, I get my ass up and let him sit down. So I don't really see any reason why for example when a 9mos pregnant woman I knew went to the OB/GYN and the waiting room was full with men and their wives, not a single one got up and offered her a seat... she had to go sit outside in the hall on the floor (a most uncomfortable ordeal for someone that pregnant...)
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« Reply #114 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 10:58am »

Here's something I did with my girlfriend once.
 
On a Sunday afternoon, she and I were sitting near the coffee counter in a book store reading some books.  We had been reading our respective books for some time.  And then, seemingly for no reason, I put down my book  and I looked at her and softly said "I want you so badly  right now." She smiled as if to tell me that it excited  her that I had to have her so badly.  (A happy woman in  a good relationship responds very powerfully to this type of thing.)  Then she looked around as if to tell me  that this was not the time or place for me to act on my desires. I stood up and took her hand and said "Come here."  She  got up and said "What are you doing?"  I didn't answer  her but simply led her. I brought her to a distant corner area of the book store  between two tall book shelves.  Then I pressed her back against the books and said "I have to have you right here  right now so badly." She smiled and said "What are you doing?" I started making out with her hard and put my hand on her crotch and then said into her ear "You turn me on so much. You make me so fvcking hot for you. It makes me want to take you right here." Her logical mind was feeling embarrassed that I was rubbing her crotch in a public place, but her sexual  
mind was responding very powerfully to my words. Her legs pressed together in objection, but her sighs and moans betrayed her surrender to the vulnerabilities of passion.
 
(I should write romance novels.)
 
I continued telling her how much I wanted her and continued to rub her crotch. Then I strategically changed my wording.  I started  saying "It makes you so horny knowing that I want you so badly. It makes you so fvcking hot right now. You want  it so fvcking badly right now. You are being a very naughty little girl right now because you want to get  fvcked so fvcking badly." I continued this, about how SHE was so horny, while I  continued rubbing her crotch.  Then she came. Then I made out with her some more and shared emotional  intimacy and told her how sexy she is to me.  Then I  simply returned her to our table and I went back to reading my book.  She read her book but was unable to concentrate.
 
Later we left to go back to my place.  On the way home she talked about what happened. I commented about how excited it made me.  When we got home, we had hot s.x. Then she went home.  That night she almost certainly masturbated to the thought of me fvcking her in a book store.
 
Do you see what I did?  I made it HER fantasy.  And that can be made reality at any time.  And you can be rest assured that she will come, very hard.
 
 
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« Reply #115 on: Jul 11th, 2007, 12:13pm »

Puzzlecracker - what exactly made you think that we wanted to know this?
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« Reply #116 on: Jul 13th, 2007, 7:06pm »

Amen pex... your bedroom games are your own business so please keep them that way puzzlecracker. That was no more than locker room bragging... (not something most women find attractive)
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« Reply #117 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 11:42am »

After puzzlecracker's recent off-kilter post and an episode of blatant plagiarism in another topic, I decided to check out his other "sources."  Turns out he simply checks a website for his advice.
 
Warning: Sameer says this may not be office friendly.
 
June 14th
 
June 14th, again
 
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As a fellow male, I would say that puzzlecracker is himself exactly the reason why men have such a hard time with women.  Guys like him give stupid advice that they pretend has worked in the real world and it causes problems.  As to his "love story" or whatever he called it, he's most likely just fantasizing about that as well.
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« Reply #118 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 6:19pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 11:42am, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
 Guys like him give stupid advice that they pretend has worked in the real world and it causes problems.

 
Of course it works !! In pornoland anyway..
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« Reply #119 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 8:31pm »

Haha... I figured as much... thanks for taking the time to research him WTF!
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« Reply #120 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 10:06pm »

on Jul 17th, 2007, 8:31pm, ima1trkpny wrote:
Haha... I figured as much... thanks for taking the time to research him WTF!

 
yea indeed good research... however do post a "warning - not office friendly"  Embarassed
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« Reply #121 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 7:16am »

Sorry about that Sameer.
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« Reply #122 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 7:29am »

on Feb 7th, 2005, 10:42pm, Sergey Brin wrote:
I am 23 years old now and have been trying to date a number of women, but always managed to screw up along the way.

Just because you admit that women are a big problem for you, it doesn't mean that things will get better. So the only thing that happened is that you admitted that you are a loser, and there are a lot of people, especially women, who are not interested in that.  
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« Reply #123 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 11:20am »

on Jul 18th, 2007, 7:29am, Iceman wrote:

Just because you admit that women are a big problem for you, it doesn't mean that things will get better. So the only thing that happened is that you admitted that you are a loser, and there are a lot of people, especially women, who are not interested in that.  

 
Icey... that was well... cold.  Undecided
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« Reply #124 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 12:47pm »

I was just giving him a moral boost in a twisted way, but yes, I am cold as ice, baby. Still, I could use some friction too, so you have a point: it is better to be nice, than to not.  Smiley
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