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« on: Nov 26th, 2009, 11:11am »
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Hi all,
can anyone help me !!
 
I wanna find the adjoint of the linear first order differential operator D
on polynomials of degree at most m from a vector space P[x]:
D(p(x)) = p'(x)  
 
any help ?? any resources Huh
 
with the inner product is defined as:
 
<p1(x), p2(x)> = SUM_k=0 ^m {a_k d_k*} , where dk* means conjugate of dk
 
p1(x)= SUM k=0^m (a_k x^k), p2(x)= SUM k=0^m (d_k x^k)
 
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 26th, 2009, 12:02pm »
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The space of polynomials of degree at most m has as a basis the polynomials 1, x, x^2, x^3,...,x^m, and this is an orthonormal basis for the inner product you've written down.  
 
Write down the operator D as a matrix in terms of this basis.  Then the adjoint is given by the conjugate transpose of that matrix.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 26th, 2009, 11:28pm »
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Ok,
 
The matrix representation for the operator D is:
 
0  1  0  0  0 .......  0  
0  0  2  0  0 ........ 0  
0  0  0  3  0 ........ 0  
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0  0  0  0  0  ...... m  
0  0  0  0  0  ...... 0  
 
right ??
 
 
so now I take transpose !!
 
and if so, how I can form the adjoint D* from the resulting matrix ??
 
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 27th, 2009, 10:12am »
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Correct, so the CONJUGATE transpose is  
 
0  0  0  0  0 .......  0  0
1  0  0  0  0 ........ 0  0
0  2  0  0  0 ........ 0  0
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0  0  0  0  0  ...... 0   0
0  0  0  0  0  ...... m  0  
 
(the conjugation being irrelevant in this example since all the entries are real)
 
Then this matrix represents the adjoint operator D*.  In general, any time you have an orthonormal basis for a vector space and an operator E represented by a matrix in that basis, the adjoint operator is represented by the matrix E*.  Depending on the definition of "adjoint" you are working with, there is something to prove here:  the standard definition of an adjoint operator E* is that it is an operator such that <Ev,w> = <v,E*w> for all vectors v,w in your vector space.  I'm telling you that E* is actually just the conjugate transpose, once you've written E down in terms of an orthonormal basis.
 
In this particular example, the operator D* takes 1 to x, x to 2x^2, x^2 to 3x^3, etc.  So then if p(x) = sum ai x^i and q(x) = sum bi x^i are two polynomials,
 
<Dp,q> = sum i * a_{i-1} b_i as i goes from 1 to m
<p,D*q> = sum a_i * (i+1) b_(i+1) as i goes from 0 to m-1.
 
But these two sums are actually the same; just change the dummy variable i.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 10:08am »
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So, in this case  the general form of the adjoint will be
 
D*(q(x)) = sum (i+1) b_(i+1) x^i as i goes from 0 to m-1.  
 
  right !!?
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 1st, 2009, 11:00am »
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on Dec 1st, 2009, 10:08am, MonicaMath wrote:
So, in this case  the general form of the adjoint will be
 
D*(q(x)) = sum (i+1) b_(i+1) x^(i+1) as i goes from 0 to m-1.  
 
  right !!?

 
Almost.  I fixed it in the quote.
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