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joshiyanvolnd
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Puzzle in a puzzle.
« on: Oct 1st, 2007, 7:44pm » |
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4x 4x 8 16 6
12 2x 8 18 8
1x 2x 18 7 4x
14 5x 12 4x 12
18 2x 2x 4 6
W H AxT AxM Ix?
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #1 on: Oct 17th, 2007, 4:55pm » |
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isn't it a terrible feeling to compose a riddle, and then no-one post into it?
No answers yet, partly due to it beng quite tricky, partly due to me and time.
I tried (and I assume many others have) converting the numbers to letters, assuming that it was a 5x5 crossed word thingo.
Didn't work.
Any other ideas?
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joshiyanvolnd
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #2 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 12:08pm » |
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u are on the right track, but its more complex. u have to open your mind to more possibilties. As a hint, I will tell you this: Your starting point is to figure out what you notice about the sentence What am I?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #3 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 12:35pm » |
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Well, I can see that a number followed by "x" seems to be a vowel; others are consonants. Haven't figured out the code yet though.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #4 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 4:33pm » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 12:35pm, pex wrote:| Well, I can see that a number followed by "x" seems to be a vowel; others are consonants. Haven't figured out the code yet though. |
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I thought about this, although if we can assume that "4x" and "4x" are the same letter in the first line, there aren't many common words that begin with two of the same vowel. I also thought that since the "x"s follow only numbers in {1,2,3,4,5}, these would be the vowels. However, in the third and fifth lines, the number "4" appears without an "x" after it... 
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Noke Lieu
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #5 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 4:47pm » |
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I took the assumption that 4x meant 4th vowel, giving the first line perhaps going to be ooze.
But then that meant that the 6 should have been 2x. So perhaps on occassion, x=3.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #6 on: Oct 20th, 2007, 8:48am » |
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Going with Noke's idea, if Nx means the Nth vowel, then N might be the Nth consonant.
This doesn't work really well, though:
OOKTH
PEKWK
AEWKF
RUPOP
WEEFH
My instinct is that this is the correct vowel-consonant pattern of the words, but it's just not as simple as "Nth". With that idea, I'd concentrate on the 1st and 3rd "word" going across. How many V-V-C-C-C words can there be?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #7 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 1:11am » |
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on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:48am, Joe Fendel wrote:| With that idea, I'd concentrate on the 1st and 3rd "word" going across. How many V-V-C-C-C words can there be? |
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Could you grep this?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #8 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 4:57am » |
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There are many entries in my dictionary that I don't recognize as English words. But here are few.
aargh aught ants earls earns earth eight iambs oaths oomph, ought ousts (and depending how you consider 'y') yacht yacks yanks yards yawns yells yolks yurts
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #9 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 5:05am » |
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There are only 2 odd numbers in the grid, are they of any signifigance?
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joshiyanvolnd
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #10 on: Oct 24th, 2007, 7:20pm » |
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They are not any more special than the other numbers. Most of you are beginning to open up the right possibilities(especially about vowels you are getting close). However, remember to think outside the box and to be careful to not constrain your thoughts and ideas to the normal flow of things.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #11 on: Oct 25th, 2007, 4:54am » |
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I tried counting backwards, with U being 1x, and Z being 1, but I still got nowhere. 
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #12 on: Oct 27th, 2007, 6:43pm » |
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to give you all a little push, ghost sniper is the closest so far
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #13 on: Oct 27th, 2007, 7:08pm » |
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Do the meanings of the numbers change per line?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #14 on: Oct 28th, 2007, 2:55pm » |
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #15 on: Oct 29th, 2007, 2:47am » |
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Isn't there an x missing at the end of the third line?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #16 on: Oct 29th, 2007, 4:27am » |
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Assuming that Grimbal is right, Ix AxM HAxLF.
The hidden line is "TWO OF ME MAKES FOUR FROM THREE."
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #17 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 6:32pm » |
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Bingo. Now what is the answer to the riddle? I think you hinted at it. Sorry about that third line by the way.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #18 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 6:53pm » |
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on Oct 29th, 2007, 4:27am, gotit wrote:| "TWO OF ME MAKES FOUR FROM THREE." |
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-0.5? 
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #19 on: Oct 30th, 2007, 8:58pm » |
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Or 3.5.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #20 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 3:44am » |
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I already mentioned my answer. Its HALF or 1/2 or 0.5
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #21 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 4:21am » |
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Back in "my day", four from three meant 3-4=-1.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #22 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 4:22am » |
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on Oct 31st, 2007, 4:21am, FiBsTeR wrote:| Back in "my day", four from three meant 3-4=-1. |
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When did "your day" occur?
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #23 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 5:42am » |
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I was referring to elementary/grade school, and it intuitively makes sense that X apples from Y apples means taking X apples from Y apples, and thus you'd be left with Y-X apples.
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Re: Puzzle in a puzzle.
« Reply #24 on: Oct 31st, 2007, 8:17am » |
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on Oct 31st, 2007, 4:21am, FiBsTeR wrote:| Back in "my day", four from three meant 3-4=-1. |
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I know. Just a little poor-English stretch.
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