Okay, this is a comprehensive set of data across your requirements and multiple vendors. I will compile a report comparing each vendor’s offering against your detailed “Table 1” specifications for each valve.
I’ve extracted the most relevant information for comparison from your Table 1 data and cross-referenced it with the details provided for Masoneilan, Samson (from previous turns), and the new Flowserve (CTi Controltech) quote.
Purpose: To evaluate and compare the technical offers from Masoneilan, Samson, and Flowserve (CTi Controltech) against the specified requirements for each control valve listed in “Table 1”.
Key Considerations for Decision:
Vendor | Overall Adherence to Specs | Missing Valves (from Table 1) | Common Deviations/Notes |
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Masoneilan | Good, minor size opt. | 131-PCV-0583, 131-PCV-0585C, 131-PV-0581 | Offers larger actual valve sizes than specified for some items (e.g., 4" for 2" line). Good Cv match. |
Samson | Significant Size Mismatches | 131-PCV-0583, 131-PCV-0585C, 131-PV-0581 | Frequent and significant deviations in valve size vs. specified pipe size. Justified by noise reduction for some. Generic “Metallic” trim needs clarification. |
Flowserve | Good, with Rotary Options | 131-PCV-0583, 131-PCV-0585C, 131-PV-0581 | Offers both Globe and cheaper Rotary alternatives. Excellent detail on trim materials, leakage, and noise. Minor positioner model number discrepancy. |
Legend:
1. Valve Tag: 131-TV-0348 (Lube Oil Cooler Bypass)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-41315 Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 6" / 6" Sch. XS (Match) | DN 6" / 6" Sch. XS (Match) | 6" / Pipe 6" Sch. XS (Match) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A216 gr WCC (CS - Match) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | WCC (CS - Match) |
Trim Type | Linear Contoured (Allowed) | Equal Percentage (Allowed) | Standard / Equal Percent (Allowed) |
Trim Mat. | 17-4PH St. St. / 410 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 400 (Req Cv 224.7) - Good margin | 400 - Good margin | 87.823 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Strong compliance. | Good compliance, clarify trim. | Strong compliance. |
Alternative | N/A | N/A | 4" Valtek MaxFlo4 Rotary, cheaper, similar performance parameters for Cv/Noise. (3822 vs 3821 pos. minor discrepancy) |
2. Valve Tag: 131-PV-0586 (Spillback CV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-41355 Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One-MS Globe (Anti-Noise) |
Size/Pipe | 4" / 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) | DN 6" (63mm seat) / 2" Sch. XS (Significant Deviation) | 4" / Pipe 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A216 gr WCC (CS - Match) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | WCC (CS - Match) |
Trim Type | LoDB 2 Stage - Linear (Advanced/Anti-Noise) | Equal Percentage (Allowed) | MegaStream (Anti-Noise) / Equal Percent (Allowed) |
Trim Mat. | 17-4PH St. St. / 410 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 416 SS HT (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 72 (Req Cv 16.93) - Good margin | N/A (Reduced seat, noise focus) | 20.077 (Close to req Cv) |
Noise | 81 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | Max 81 dBA for 6" valve (Match ≤ 85) | 91 dBA (Deviation > 85, < 115) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Offers larger valve to manage noise. | Offers significantly larger valve to manage noise; clarify intent of pipe size. | Offers anti-noise trim; noise level is highest here, but within intermittent limits. |
3. Valve Tag: 131-LV-0369 (Waste Water Sep. LV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 28-28111MS Globe | Globe Valve | Kammer 3850P2 Globe (Small, Precise) |
Size/Pipe | 1" / 1" Sch. 160 (Match) | DN 1" / 1" Sch. 160 (Match) | 0.5" / Pipe 1" Sch. 160 (Deviation - valve size) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | Flanged (Kammer Std) (Clarify if 300# RF) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A351 gr CF3M (316L st.st. - Deviation from CS) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | CF3M (316L SS - Deviation from CS) |
Trim Type | Multi-stage plug (Good for high DP) | Equal Percentage (Allowed) | Equal Percent (Allowed) |
Trim Mat. | Stellite 12 / Stellite (Good for high DP) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 1.4122 (SS - Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 0.05 / Adj. Cv 0.05 (Req Cv 0.01864) | N/A (Small Cv) | 0.020 (Matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Offers SS body and multi-stage trim (suitable for high DP, potential cavitation). | Matches CS body. Clarify trim material. | Quotes a smaller valve size (0.5"), possibly for better control of very low flows. Has SS body. |
4. Valve Tag: 131-FV-0065 (Regeneration Gas To Flare)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-41325 Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 4" / 4" Sch. XS (Match) | DN 3" / 4" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 3" / Pipe 4" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Deviation - Table 1 is FO) | FO (Match) | FC (Deviation - Table 1 is FO) |
Body Mat. | A216 gr WCC (CS - Match) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | WCC (CS - Match) |
Trim Type | Equal Percent Contoured (Match) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Standard / Linear (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 17-4PH St. St. / 410 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 225 (Req Cv 72.56) - Good margin | N/A | 74.697 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Fail position mismatch. Good sized valve. | Correct fail position. Size reduction to 3". | Fail position mismatch. Offers a 3" valve, and a cheaper 3" rotary alternative. |
Alternative | N/A | N/A | 3" Valtek MaxFlo4 Rotary, cheaper. (3822 vs 3821 pos. minor discrepancy) |
5. Valve Tag: 131-PV-0597 (Reboiler Gas PV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21114EB Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 1" / 1" Sch. XS (Match) | 1" / 1" Sch. 160 (Deviation from XS) | 1" / Pipe 1" Sch. XS (Match) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Match) | A352 LCC (LTCS - Match) | LCC (LTCS - Match) |
Trim Type | Linear, Close Clearance (Allowed) | Equal Percentage (Allowed) | Equal Percent (Allowed) |
Trim Mat. | Integral w/ seat ring / Stellite (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 0.3 (Req Cv 0.1513) | N/A | 0.152 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Strong compliance. | Minor pipe schedule deviation. | Strong compliance. |
6. Valve Tag: 131-LV-0376 (Recovered HC CV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21124EB Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 2" / 2" Sch. XS (Match) | DN 1" / 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 1" / Pipe 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Match) | A352 LCC (LTCS - Match) | LCC (LTCS - Match) |
Trim Type | Equal Percent Contoured (Match) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Equal Percent (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 316 St. St. / 316 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 15 (Req Cv 5.148) - Good margin | N/A | 5.211 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Strong compliance. | Size reduction to 1". | Size reduction to 1". |
7. Valve Tag: 131-TV-0385 (Reboiler Temp CV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21124 Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 3" / 3" Sch. XS (Match) | DN 1 1/2" / 3" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 1.5" / Pipe 3" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A216 gr WCC (CS - Match) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | WCC (CS - Match) |
Trim Type | Equal Percent Contoured (Match) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Equal Percent (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 316 St. St. Hard Faced Seat (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 6 (Req Cv 2.624) - Good margin | N/A | 2.698 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | 71 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | N/A | 74 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Strong compliance. | Size reduction to 1.5", clarify trim. | Size reduction to 1.5". |
8. Valve Tag: 131-PV-0591 (Membrane PCV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21914EB Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One-MS Globe (Anti-Noise) |
Size/Pipe | 3" / 4" Sch. XS (Deviation) | DN 3" / 4" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 2" / Pipe 4" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Match) | A352 LCC (LTCS - Match) | LCC (LTCS - Match) |
Trim Type | LoDB 2 Stage - Linear, Multi-Hole (Anti-Noise) | Equal Percentage (Match) | MegaStream (Anti-Noise) / Equal Percent (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 316 St. St. Hard Faced Seat / CA6NM St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 416 SS HT (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 40 (Req Cv 8.374) - Good margin | N/A | 9.822 (Matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | 74 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | N/A | 78 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Size reduced to 3". | Size reduced to 3". | Valve size reduced to 2". |
9. Valve Tag: 131-TV-0371 (Ref Propane Valve)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21714EB Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 1.5" / 2" Sch. XS (Deviation - valve size) | 2" / 2" Sch. XS (Match) | 1.5" / Pipe 2" Sch.XS (Deviation - valve size) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Match) | A352 LCC (LTCS - Match) | LCC (LTCS - Match) |
Trim Type | Anti-Cavitation 1 Stage (Good for cavitating) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Equal Percent (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 316 St. St. Hard Faced Seat (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS / Alloy 6 (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 8 (Req Cv 0.9732) - Good margin | N/A | 7.352 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | Flashing* (Note: Flashing implies noise is inevitable) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | Offers anti-cavitation trim. | Good size match. Clarify trim. | Offers a 1.5" valve. Has a cheaper 1" rotary alternative. |
Alternative | N/A | N/A | 1" Valtek MaxFlo4 Rotary, cheaper. (3822 vs 3821 pos. minor discrepancy) |
10. Valve Tag: 131-LV-0372 (Memb Sep LV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21124EB Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 2" / 2" Sch. XS (Match) | DN 1" / 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 1" / Pipe 2" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Deviation from CS) | A352 LCC (LTCS - Deviation from CS) | LCC (LTCS - Deviation from CS) |
Trim Type | Equal Percent Contoured (Match) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Equal Percent (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 316 St. St. / 316 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS / Alloy 6 (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 3.8 (Req Cv 1.471) - Good margin | N/A | 2.591 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | Flashing* (Note: Flashing implies noise is inevitable) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | All vendors deviate on body material (quote LTCS instead of CS). Masoneilan best on pipe size. | Size reduced to 1". | Offers a 1" valve. Has a cheaper 1" rotary alternative. |
Alternative | N/A | N/A | 1" Valtek MaxFlo4 Rotary, cheaper. (3822 vs 3821 pos. minor discrepancy) |
11. Valve Tag: 131-TV-0361 (Glycol Water CV)
Feature | Masoneilan | Samson | Flowserve (CTi Controltech) |
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Valve Model | 88-21114 Globe | Globe Valve | Valtek Mark One Globe |
Size/Pipe | 3" / 6" Sch. XS (Deviation) | DN 3" / 6" Sch. XS (Deviation) | 3" / Pipe 6" Sch. XS (Deviation) |
Connection | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) | 300# RF (Match) |
Fail Pos. | FC (Match) | FC (Match) | FC (Match) |
Body Mat. | A352 gr LCC (LTCS - Deviation from CS) | A216 WCC (CS - Match) | WCC (CS - Match) |
Trim Type | Linear Contoured (Match) | Equal Percentage (Match) | Standard / Linear (Match) |
Trim Mat. | 410 St. St. / 410 St. St. (Match SS) | Metallic (Clarify if SS) | 316 SS (Match SS) |
Rated Cv | 110 (Req Cv 61.14) - Good margin | N/A | 59.664 (matches Flowserve’s sizing calculation) |
Noise | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) | < 70 dBA (Match ≤ 85) |
Positioner | Identical (HART/Smart) | Identified in sizing report | Logix 3800 Series / 3821 (HART) (Match) |
Comments | All vendors quote a 3" valve for a 6" line. Masoneilan quotes LTCS body. | Good body material match. Clarify trim. | Offers a 3" valve. Has a cheaper 3" rotary alternative. |
Alternative | N/A | N/A | 3" Valtek MaxFlo4 Rotary, cheaper. (3822 vs 3821 pos. minor discrepancy) |
All three vendors (Masoneilan, Samson, Flowserve) did not include quotes for the following valves from your “Table 1”:
This is a critical gap in all quotes and must be addressed as a priority with all vendors.
Address Missing Valves IMMEDIATELY: Contact all three vendors and request quotes for 131-PCV-0583, 131-PCV-0585C, and 131-PV-0581. This is non-negotiable for a complete project.
Review Valve Size Deviations:
Clarify Specific Material & Fail Position Mismatches:
Evaluate Noise Performance:
Consider Flowserve’s Rotary Alternatives:
Lead Time: All quoted lead times seem similar. Ensure the lead time for the missing valves doesn’t significantly impact project schedule.
Preliminary Conclusion (Pending Clarifications & Missing Valves):
Based on the provided data for the 11 valves quoted:
Next Steps: