A NOBEL Dialogue
University of California, Berkeley
Department of Physics
December 3, 1970
Dr. Erik Rudberg, Chairman
Nobel Committee for Physics
Sturegatan 14
S-114 36 Stockholm, Sweden
Dear Dr. Rudberg:
Thank you for the invitation to submit
proposals for the award of the Nobel Prize for Physics for 1971.
I have read with some care the material which you have sent me about
this award and I find that the specifications set forth in the will of
Alfred Nobel have served to raise in my mind certain questions -
concerning the manner of awarding this prize. I would like to
place these thoughts before your committee for its consideration.
The will states that the prizes are to be
awarded "to those who shall have conferred the greatest benefit on
mankind" and it then goes on to specify that one fifth of the total
award shall go "to the person responsible for the most important
discovery or invention within the field of physics." I would ask
the question, Is it true that the most important discovery or invention
in physics constitutes automatically a benefit for mankind?
Perhaps Nobel thought this was true and undoubtedly a great many people
at his time, and up to very recent times, have accepted this as
true. But it appears that there is now a rapidly growing body of
concern, among scientists as well as among laymen throughout the world,
that the abstract advances of science may be finally producing more of
a threat to the future life of the whole planet than a blessing.
My own opinion is that there is great cause
for alarm in the many misuses of scientific knowledge, intentional or
accidental, which we can already point to: atomic war and other
advanced technological means of destroying life, pollution from
industrial and urban activities, social dislocations produced by
electronic and other forms of systems control, etcetera.
Furthermore, I see this new tide of concern over the complex
interaction between abstract scientific work and imminent social
problems as more than just a momentary reflex on the part of a worried
populace. I believe that we are passing out of an expansive
phase, where the dilute efforts of scientists could be readily absorbed
into the total cultural evolution, into a saturated phase, where cause
and effect - science and humanity - are intimately coupled. This
means that progress in pure science (as measured by the intellectual
criteria of professional scientists) and progress for mankind (as
measured by the broadest wisdom of as many men as we can consult) are
not necessarity synonymous. Thus we may have to make choices
between the two.
Another way of asking my question is to focus
on the word "important" used in Nobel's will and ask whether that
implies "important for physics" or "important for the benefit of
mankind." If a choice need be made between these two
interpretations, I trust it will be the latter one that prevails.
I am aware that the problems I am posing are
very difficult ones and it must be the responsibility of all scientists
and all thinking people to study these matters and to develop some
useful guides. Yet I would like to say why I believe that the
Nobel Committee has a special obligation to give this matter its
attention.
The Nobel prize has come to be much more than
a reward that comes into the life of a few scientists who have achieved
some outstanding success. It has become a goal - oftentimes the
goal - throughout the working lifetime of a dominant section of the
whole community of scientists. The standards and criteria applied
in the award of past prizes does have a very significant impact
in shaping the professional attitudes of most scientists.
Therefore, to the extent that the Nobel prize has been awarded
predominantly for the highest achievements in the abstract searchings
of fundamental physics, it has fostered an outlook among the whole body
of physicists which deliberately ignores, or relegates to secondary
consideration, the human and social implications of scientific work as
a whole. Thus, by some standards of evaluation it might be
claimed that the prize has done more harm than good for mankind.
I am sorry that I do not know of any ready
solution to offer for this dilemma; the working out of a
healthier interrelationship between science and human affairs stands,
in my mind, as the largest task facing scientists and facing mankind.
With all due apologies for the uncomfortable
position in which I may have placed you, I do have one small suggestion
for your Committee: You could declare that you will award no further prizes until
such time as the major contradictions now seen between the advance of
physics for its own sake and the needs of the whole human race have
been resolved. Such an announcement by your Committee might have
the effect of stimulating just the sort of rethinking that is now
needed to resolve the problem; and in this way you would
certainly serve best the primary objective of Nobel's bequest: to
benefit mankind.
Very truly yours,
Charles Schwartz
The Royal Academy of Sciences
The Permanent Secretary
Professor Dr Erik Rudberg
1970-12-13
Professor Dr Charles Schwartz
University of California
Berkeley, Calif 94720
USA
Dear Professor Schwartz:
Your letter of December 3, 1970, which you wrote after you received our
invitation to submit proposals for the award of the Nobel Prize for
physics for 1971, has just reached me. I thank you for your
letter, so rich in its content, showing that you have thought a lot
about the idea not only of having Nobel Prizes today, but really about
the philosophy of scientific prizes in general. I shall now, as
best I can, try to answer your questions and comment on your proposals.
Let me first deal with these matters entirely from the attitude, which
the prizeawarding bodies here have adopted, quite officially, and
standing of course on their fairly old tradition now. We think
that it is the duty of the Royal Academy of Sciences, once it has
accepted to act and decide according to the will of Alfred Nobel about
the prize in physics (and in chemistry) some 70 years ago - to try to
give the award to the foremost achievement, in the field in question,
judged from the scientific point of view. This means, in
physics, to find out what was the most outstanding, brilliant and
importance-carrying achievement, which rose above the good things that
others produced and perhaps marked a turningpoint in the development of
its field. The reference, in the will, to the most recent year
has not been taken literally for a long time, if at all. One has
interpreted this as meaning that, even though, as was mostly the case,
the decisive step which was rewarded may lie many years in the past,
its importance has full actuality the day the award is given. In
the fundamental statutes for the Nobel Prizes, the possibility is
foreseen that a prize of a particular year can be reserved, in the
first place to be given the following year together with that year's
prize. The possibility is also there that a prize, which has
been reserved, was not given the following year: in this case,
according to the present fundamental statutes, the amount goes back to
the main capital of the foundation. The reasons for not awarding
any prize in a particular year are implicitly considered to be, that
the Academy did not find a clear case, according to the principles of
the award, for bestowing the prize upon anybody that year. It is,
however, entirely foreign to the will of Alfred Nobel and to the
expression that his ideas have precipitated in the fundamental
statutes, that a prize should be withheld as a kind of
demonstration. - As far as we know from Alfred Nobel's writings,
and from what his nearest friends and helpers have told those who made
the original fundamental statutes and were instrumental in the start of
the Nobel awards, Alfred Nobel had the conviction that work in the
sciences which he mentioned would in itself be contributing to the
benefit of mankind - at least in the long run. I think it is fair
to say that the prize-awarding bodies feel bound by this, even if the
developments in recent years in the world, where ruthless people misuse
the technology developed and based on achievements in pure science to
evil ends - could in dark moments make them wonder, if it had not been
better if we had had no technology at all.
The Academy, then, as a prize-awarding body, does not see that the
Nobel activity should be discontinued, or changed radically from what
it has aimed to be in the past.
Now perhaps a few of my personal remarks. I have very deep
sympathy for your ideas, that the people working in science should be
sensitive to what humanity is in need of to-day. And we must have
much more understanding between the science and scientific developments
on which technology is being based and the human efforts and the work
of human spirit in different fields. We must not be blind to the
very pressing social needs of our days. But a majority of the
great men in science, Nobel Laureates, which I have been privileges to
know, had a deep and very alive conscience of this need - and many of
them were untiring in their efforts to improve matters, in the
directions you are thinking about. I think that some progress has
been made. I think that it is a great mistake, to-day, that
people who find something in our society's structure wrong, bad, even
very bad - that they should resort to violent demonstrations, to
strikes and to acts involving destruction. To strike is a bad way
to try to convince influential people! If the Nobel Foundation
were to announce, that they were withholding prizes until the human
situation had been definitely re-arranged, this would mean just an
unjust strike, as I see it.
But then, these last remarks are my private views.
Finally, and despite all the doubts that you have expressed in your
letter, I hope that we may receive from you some good proposal for the
committee of the Nobel physics prize in 1971 to consider.
Very sincerely yours,
Erik Rudberg
The Japan Times
Tuesday, May 4, 1971
Nobel
Physics Prize Rules Need Changing: Professor
STOCKHOLM (Kyodo-Reuter) -- Prof. Charles
Schwartz, of the University of California has asked the Swedish Academy
of Sciences to change the rules for awarding the Nobel Physics Prize,
on the grounds that at present it may be more harmful than beneficial
to mankind.
The academy confirmed Sunday that it had
received a letter from Prof. Schwartz, head of the physics faculty [not
so] at the University of California in Berkeley, suggesting that the
prize should not be distributed again until the rules are reappraised.
Prof. Schwartz noted that Alfred Nobel's
original instructions specified that the prizes should go to "those
who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest
benefit on mankind" and, in the case of the physics award, to "the
person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention
within the field of physics."
The compatibility of these two sets of
instructions could be questioned today, the professor wrote, as it was
a moot point whether all scientific discoveries or inventions were to
the benefit of mankind in view of their side-effects. Often, they
proved more harmful.
The prize had helped to promote an attitude
among the majority of scientists in which side-effects were either
ignored or attributed little significance, he said.
He added: "This means that the human and
social effects of physical scientific research are being neglected."
NOMINATION FOR THE AWARD OF THE
1976 NOBEL PRIZE FOR PHYSICS
Candidate:
Dr. George Gladstone, Founder and Curator
Wonders of the World
Museum, Port Costa, California
94569 USA
The nomination is made in respect of his pioneering work on Kaolism,
leading to many discoveries about the Bone Age. (See accompanying
catalog for
details.)
Brief motivation:
Five years ago, when the Nobel Committee for Physics first invited me
to nominate someone for this prize, I responded by suggesting,
"You could declare that you will award no
further prizes until such time as the major contradictions now
seen between the advance of physics for its own sake
and the needs of the whole human race have been resolved."
The purpose stated by Alfred Nobel in his will -- to reward "those who
shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind" -- seems to have
been
forgotten. The prize, year after year, is given to scientists at
the
elite research centers of the imperialist nations, where the great
majority
of scientific work, when it has any practical application at all, is
channeled toward refining the weapons of human slaughter and increasing
the
profits of greedy corporations. Meanwhile, mankind suffers from
unrelieved hunger and exploitation as well as the perils of global
pollution and nuclear
war.
These wretched conditions have not changed, but again you ask me to
nominate someone to receive your prize. How shall I
respond? My best
answer is this: "Here is the amazing Dr. Gladstone, of whom I can say
with confidence
that his scientific genius will not be turned against mankind."
Nominator:
C. L. Schwartz, Professor of Physics
University of California, Berkeley, California 94720 USA
December 3, 1975