Present: gcwong cardi sle geo abhi mkendall akit sluo dmchan jchu kevintra akit: call to order 7:14 PM akit: I didn't have time to check actual budget but it's lower now. I got po order for toner and cleaning supplies for maintenance day akit hasn't bought Microsoft licenses yet, BOD hasn't passed the motion yet We can only make one Microsoft purchase a year. What does the OCF want? Do we want to buy the license or windows servers? sluo: We don't have decision yet sle agrees akit wants to wait on decision akit: Thanks for coming to maintenance day. Those of you that didn't come... cardi: I thought you guys said meet at angel island akit: I said meet at ocf yury walks in 7:16 PM akit: I think you were asleep cardi cardi: yea I didn't wake up until 5 PM akit: I'm going to watch Transformers on Friday, you can join me if you want. mkendall: I'm going to LA to watch the Noodles akit: Am I going to do elections? sluo: Yea elections go first. yury: We failed general meeting again since elections are supposed to be first. Rread the constitutionality of the section mkendall: We should stop following the rules. akit: No we should not. We should have a sm election. yury: kevintra staffer? kevintra: yes akit: Does everyone know what sm is? sle apparently doesn't akit: sle you know what sm is jchu nominates yury yury declines jchu nominates sle sle declines yury nominates jchu sle seconds jchu accepts yury nominates cardi cardi: fuck no yury nominates jameson jameson isn't present yury nominates dmchan dmchan declines yury nominates abhi abhi declines sluo nominates gcwong yury motions so that she can't decline motion doesn't pass gcwong declines thanos walks in 7:19 PM yury nominates thanos thanos accepts cardi nominates steveklaw akit: He can't decline yury: So he accepts by default i.e. sluo yury seconds akit: omg sluo: I think we nominated everyone in the room already. yury nominates the room akit does anyone want to do this thanos what about willis cardi agrees thanos willis wants to do it but doesnt know enough jchu me too yury i stand by my jchu quote akit to cardi: Did you take wln phone to call me last night? akit: He called me and I called him back and asked "wln did you call me?" He replied, "No but I think I know who did..." akit calls wln to joke that he is new sm sluo calls steveklaw, he declines yury: We still need to vote for jchu, if he doesn't have simple majority then we don't have sm sluo: We continue until we get simple majority so if jchu doesn't then we repeated or cancel election jchu wants to talk jchu: I don't think I have the technical skills for the job nor the time yury wants to make jchu's speech on his behalf yury: It is well known that sms fail in general and it's jchu sluo to jchu: Why did you accept nomination? jchu: because... sluo to calvin: We need to make you sm sometime... akit: So vote. You don't have to vote if you don't want to. You can abstain abhi: Vote for someone random sluo: No one else ran cardi: Let's nominate Hans Reiser yury: I have a midterm tomorrow too... I'm submitting a quantum vote. jchu: How does that work? akit: Have you voted dmchan. dmchan:I'll vote for jchu but I don't want to write it down yury: You have to write it down dmchan: Who wants to format the minutes? jchu: Submit it to thomson mkendall: Is anyone good at solitaire? jchu: How can you be bad at solitaire? sluo attempts to flip coins to decide winner sluo fails at flipping coin akit: What's the verdict? sluo: "I vote for that guy, you know that guy" Does everyone agree I should count that as vote for jchu? everyone agrees Results: jchu/milki: 4 abstain: 6 "cardi": 1 "steve perry": 1 akit: Are we doing this again? sluo: Looks like it... So no one is sm. We will have runoff with jchu and no one akit: Anyone want to run against jchu? dmchan, you're only taking two classes that dont matter and you play scrabble online. dmchan: ... sluo: It is up to jchu. He can drop out. akit: I resign yury: Now we need gm election. akit: I'm joking. yury nominates gordeon for sm sluo seconds akit calls gordeon "You've been nominated for sm" akit: Anyone else? cardi: When will we vote people into bod, we still need to vote thanos in mkendall to akit: That's the point honey, that's the point sluo to jchu: Do you want to force a runoff election? akit: Soda doesnt have reception does it? cardi: Not really yury calls gordeon "Call either akit or me back, you've been nominated for sm" akit: Is gordeon online, hes not on irc or aim yury: We are going to do this by drawing lots. Shortest one becomes sm sluo: I want to call elliot to see if he will reconsider. yury: So someone needs to be sm. It's not that bad. sluo: No it's really not that bad. yury: You have to deal with dwc... yury points to his treo talking to mkendall This is pda... your DS is a piece of shit. How fast is your processors? akit: ... omg you guys are such dorks. yury: I have cellphone capabilities... I can go online mkendall: So can this... yury: Only wifi though yury: jchu want to just try again (for sm)? How about we just have another run off election? sluo: It's clear that no one wants the job. akit: What is runoff? sluo: We just ask people to vote again... Normally we eliminate the lowest candidate and vote again. akit: Vote wisely if you want to go home today. akit: geo did you not turn in your vote the last time? mkendall: He's too busy playing zelda kevintra to jchu: You never gave me a reason to vote for you sle: He was pimp jchu: i have no confidence sluo: Get some confidence, you're not going to get anywhere without it. sluo to jchu: I see a vote there jchu: No... oh wait yea sluo: Maybe I'll start counting while waiting for yury mkendall: Who voted for wjm cause I know I did sluo: Are you kidding cause I don't see any votes for wjm yury: Hey it's gordeon akit: Hi gordon jchu: Hi gordon yury: Everyone says hi jchu to gordeon: You're sm yury to gordeon: You're in lecture? yury: Does jchu win? sluo: Yes he does jchu it jumped up by 5 yury to gordeon: Sorry gordon jchu/jchu 9 abstain 1 cardi 1 arnold schwareznger? 1 yury: You spelled it incorrectly I spelled it correctly for you! sluo: There aren't two zs yury: Google says there are akit: jchu is the new sm... What is wrong with you guys? yury: Motion to remove jchu as sm sle: Everyone can join callug if you have more confidence! yury: This is the thing that just lost the hdd and stole from ocf right? yury: jchu can do sm agenda jchu: I defer to sluo sluo: sm agenda only thing to note is that we have issues. We have issues with firewalls on solaris box tentative update to ipfilters 20th sle: Backup your data on friday yury: Did we put up a notice? sluo: Not yet since I decided an hour ago yury to jchu: Put up a notice jchu: ok card: What happened? sluo: We had multiple nfs meltdowns over the week cardi: So we're fixing stuff? yury: sle wants to put the gigabit 3550 built in firewall connect to asuc does firewall and security sluo: That is not acceptable to campus security yury: We also have NAT and that's not acceptable sluo: There is nothing in campus policy agains a NAT yury: We can run another rulesset bind it to another interface we will still have a firewall up just on different interface it would protect us from asuc at one point sluo: jchu will think about it jchu: okay.. sluo: Is that it. Anyone have any agenda items? yury: Two items sluo: oh.. account issues yury: First one sounds reasonable... second one no sluo: Before we close we need to do bod election, someone remind us yury: Okay sluo: Damnit where is it? yury motion to change jchu's shell to rsh jchu: why yury: Restricted shell just in case jchu; I should probably change my password to something more secure yury: I also need to get you pda so you don't forget your password sle: I memorized them yury: I can't memorize tier 2 sluo: So from Daniel Armor(???)... 4th year undergraduate (Greek thing) yury: sluo either you or I will make executive summary In general all frats have requirement to educate self on alcohol and sexual violence. They want a general website on ocf ocf doesn't give accounts to nonofficial student groups sluo: Question and answers? Debate? jchu: Are they organized? yury: Seems like loosely grouped (i.e. refugees) seems beneficial to campus mkendall motions to give them account yury seconds sluo: Anyone have anything else to say? sluo: Those in favor of granting account 6 in favor 1 against (jchu) 13 present motion fails sluo: More abstentions than yes votes... yury motions again mkendall seconds yury: If you have something to say against it say it.. jchu: I want them to be more organized yury: We can demand they have a responsible party. That's ocf policy. If that person doesn't check their email within 48 hours... sluo: All in favor 8 in favor 0 against motion passes yury: akit isn't here but we still meet the minimum. sluo: Barely... sluo: It would be unwise to anger asuc yury: The question then becomes... What if there is a bogus committee on asuc with 1 person? "oh... i want a group account and virtual host name@berkeley" sluo: We have power to refuse the account yury: Yesk, but refusing the account after creation causes problems as with jsrc(???) It leads to a lot of teeth grinding yury: We should do this before the fact sluo agrees We should figure out exactly how asuc is structured yury: Until then we should allow any accounts with office of president sluo: anyhow... that can be dealt with later sluo: anna fuller wants ocf account for coop coops are not osl or reshall mkendall: What does she want it for? sluo: I know there are some coop ethernet managers yury: Maybe she wants a shell account... sluo: She wants webspace that she doesn't have to administer mkendall: To pass it on sluo: Are we approving it? yury: It serves a small portion of the Berkeley community... kind of shady sluo: I think it's funny all frats are OSL sponsored mkendall: Frats are also for profit and coops aren't yury: Wait osl can be for profit? sluo: Frats are special... yury: You need a faculty sponsor sluo: Uou don't need a faculty sponsor for student groups... you just need 4 students akit walks in with pizza cardi walks toward it akit tells him to back away yury reads the agenda sluo: Anything else to bring up? that's it then akit: Wait bod.. sluo: Who here isn't on bod thanos, kevintra thanos: What is bod? akit to thanos: He wants your bod... mkendall: I want your bod all over my bod... sluo explains bod sluo: Would you accept nomination for bod? thanos: yes sluo: kevintra? yury: Keep in mind if you don't plan on coming don't join bod yury motion to remove jchu from bod... yury: Oh wait we can't kevintra in response to sluo: absolutely sluo motion to add kevintra and thanos to bod 7 in favor mkendall against rest abstain yury motion to adjourn jchu second adjourned at 8:02 PM people get food...