Delivered-To: elliot42@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.235.5 with SMTP id i5cs89702wah; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.106.15 with SMTP id i15mr24596782pym.1171002754466; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:32:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from war.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (sinkhole.OCF.Berkeley.EDU [192.58.221.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f55si5092537pyh.2007.02.08.22.32.32; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gm@ocf.berkeley.edu designates 192.58.221.250 as permitted sender) Received: from [136.152.138.173] (asuc-wlan-net-34.AirBears.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.138.173]) by war.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.13.7/8.9.3) with ESMTP id l196TopS021171 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thomson@ocf.berkeley.edu) Message-ID: <45CC14E0.3030408@ocf.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:29:52 -0800 From: Thomson Nguyen Reply-To: thomson@OCF.Berkeley.EDU Organization: Open Computing Facility User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bod@OCF.Berkeley.EDU Subject: bod 2/8/2007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OCF Board of Directors Meeting February 8, 2007 ------------------------------ Attending: ------------------------------ akit& (Angel Kittiyachavalit) sahnn& (Sue Ahnn) aoaks* (Aaron Oaks) wln (Willis Lin) thomson@ (Thomson Nguyen) meithan (Mei Than) geo (George Wu) gordeon (Gordon Mei) griffin (Griffin Foster) jchu! (Jonathan Chu) wendaz (Wenda Zhou) abhi (Abhi Yerra) cld (Catey Davidson) cardi (Calvin Ardi) sluo (Steven Luo) frank (Frank Cohen) dima (Dima Shirchenko) elliot (Elliot Block) frank (Frank Cohen) &: Denotes GM *: Denotes SM @: Denotes Secretary !: Denotes PIMP ^: Denotes person not on BoD Not Attending: ------------------------------ yury (Yury Sobolev) aclee (Alexander Lee) dvolmar (Dan Volmar) maymei (May Mei) jameson (Jameson Lee) tony (Tony Hu) Quorum for today: 16 BoD members attending: 17 Non-members attendint: 0 **Quorum met!** Meeting called to order at 7:14 PM Agenda: --GM-- - Nap time! - Budget: $10,892.31 includes geo's $2k order - T-shirt griffin: sent out at least 10 formats of t-shirt order, they called and said it was ok, will be done by end of next week. - PC Mall corporate account login credentials on staffwiki 8-12% discount - Keyboards jameson: 20-30 keyboards in server room! sahnn: are they dirty? aoaks: yes. most of them are sun keyboards and suck. May be one or two that are USB. frank: jenga? angel: don't think there's enough. sluo: junk them if we want. they're not much use. the adapter for general use costs more than the keyboards. ping irc to see if anyone wants keyboards first. - kennish (crusty) works at cisco, has color printers in San Jose! meithan: i have a car thomson: so you can take people to in-n-out... akit: can you do it this weekend? meithan: i can do it this sunday, probably. abhi: i have a truck BoD: wtf?!?!? meithan: a truck would be better aoaks: we might need a cover abhi: i think we might have that elliot: i can just use my van, i just need people to accompany me. various: ok! sluo: we'd have to get new toner aoaks: there's some setup involved. elliot: we'll contact kennish, and figure it out meithan: how many printers? akit: 3. elliot: i will draft a new color printer policy and it will be finalized in two weeks. (random talk about jameson sleeping) - Being nice to users sahnn: we should be nice to users. abhi: you can't do this while yury's not here... sahnn: our users are sometimes jerks, but sometimes they just have honest questions or they have a paper due in 5 minutes; at the same time, some people don't know what a 'print queue' is, or how much work we have to do to keep the OCF running. try to be nice to them because we are like a volunteer organization. akit: for example, when staff members say `what does it say on the printer/whiteboard?' condescendingly. wendaz: should i close the door? akit: yes. sahnn: maybe a huge banner that says we're volunteers? anyway, users get the feeling that we're snobby tech-y people. meithan: events that include users? akit: do you know how many users we have? sluo: no users would go. sahnn: if we had free food, users would go. sluo: if we had free food, we'd have no budget elliot: do people get mad at users because staff members are doing homework off office hours, or are they mad because they just don't want to do office hours? we should figure out a way. frank: i think it stems from the fact that staff members get asked the same question 16 times. sluo: joshk had a desktop background on fallingrocks that had common tips on how to load firefox, openoffice,etc. abhi: doesn't rescomp have popups when you load up? sluo: wmf has a desktop bg that says DON'T FORGET TO LOG OUT thomson: use festival? sluo: have a sequence of public service announcements elliot: we can have a project team on educational materials wendaz: users are just lazy sometimes and want to talk to staff members - Fundraising akit: ideas? e-mail/irc/talk to us! akit: grant writing for NSF, project group to come sahnn: it's on the staffwiki, right? sluo: does everyone have staffwiki access? holler if you want an account bur/sysops - Big Ideas akit: place where people post projects, companies look and see if they want to fund it, maybe put OCF on it? - Flyers akit: any help? frank: steal staplers from some organization - Tabling akit: if you have any time to help, talk to us! give us your google calendars thomson: next time planned? akit: tuesday, 11-2pm. akit: recruiting is important, except milki, who's a youngin' sluo: he can be co-furher with cardi/willis sahnn: OCF banner to hang at the table? akit: we can vote on it at next BoD, pull a geo - Potluck akit: tomorrow! thomson's bringing his wii, maymei made fried mac n' cheese, griffin will make cookies, abhi will make fried potatoes, milki will bring juice abhi: someone bringing rice? akit: willis will bring rice aoaks: we have a george foreman thomson: we can george foreman burgers griffin: we can george foreman anything (much reminiscing about an old BBQ that didn't quite work) - Maintenance Day! akit: is everyone free on 2/24/07, 11am? (silence) sluo: company dinner in the evening akit: so...you can still clean, right? sluo: ... akit: afterward, we can bust out the projector and play wii/watch movies - Bowling akit: does anyone want to play bowling...IRL? in march? sluo: too much time in advance akit: but bowling is ok right? various: we're not good at physical exertion frank: we went hiking last semester sahnn: didn't you guys almost die? frank: ... - Abhi akit: for some reason we need to discuss abhi? abhi: advertising for a job for devin: he's still looking for people to work at boalt, if you have any php experience or sql experience, contact him djones@law.berkeley and it's a pretty cool job and it looks good on a resume. he also wanted to do a web development decal. how many people are interested in joining or helping out? sahnn: next semester? abhi: yes. (no one raises their hand, but they talk about it positively) ----SM---- - Website! aoaks: gordeon did a really good job (everyone claps) aoaks: you're still updating the dynamic pages, right? gordeon: do i have access? sluo: yes aoaks: so soon, every page will look like gordeon's gamma design...he's also been our main wiki updater sluo: you need to fix your images though, and tls (explains what tls is) gordeon: i'm not going to remember this sluo: i'll e-mail you sluo: we need to send something about openssh - Vista! aoaks: vista has been installed on welchia...it runs, yes, but we got the lowest windows experience score thomson: out of 10? cardi: out of 6 sluo: out of some number more than 1 thomson: we can just tell them that vista doesn't work on our computers sluo: our gateways are 7 years old, we need to work on an upgrade schedule. we only upgrade when things are utterly obsolete; would be nice if we upgraded before it became too obsolete and thus a bottleneck. we could come up with an upgrade schedule. sluo: this needs to be done in the next two years akit: i don't know how much money is left after our paper/toner buying. - Backup System aoaks: mostly from sle, i don't know much about the current one dima: there is none. that's why sluo: we had a tapeloader and a cron job that was scheduled to run every week or so. it would be rsync'ed to death. there are scripts to do this which only akopps understands. our goal is to implement something that !akopps understands. proposed solution was something with a turnkey? elliot: i'd like to make it into a group - UPS aoaks: apparently last semester we allocated money to buy UPS and didn't buy anything. do we still have that money allocated? sluo: yes, it's within the budget year. just go buy it! aoaks: UPS project group, elliot will do it elliot: move SMTP before project groups - SMTP aoaks: we were supposed to tell users to not use unauth SMTP, but we haven't done so; the minimum network security requirements were enacted two years ago! sluo: it's slow for a lot of other labs too, so don't be so hard on ourselves, although it's still not a good thing aoaks: gordeon made some screenshots sluo: they're wrong, they need to be uploaded to mediawiki, not hotlinked from ~gordeon aoaks: we need to give users 2 weeks lead time sluo: the settings we currently have posted just don't work, this is a result from things we did to war to reduce load. aoaks: we could just turn it off tonight, we need to finish the e-mail, gordeon needs to fix his wiki article, and we could give them a week. anyone have anything else to say? sluo: we discovered something in our testing that m$ outlook express will not work with our current configuration at all. there's a difference between start TLS, start TLS (if available) and going straight to SSL. we need to offer TLS and SSL. this involves sendmail hacks or stunnel - sluo! aoaks: we should thank sluo for staying up until 6am to patch stuff (claps) sluo: thanks - Project Groups! elliot: rotate your chairs 90 degrees! (rotates) elliot: i invite everyone to write one or more ideas on the board to improve the OCF...like set up mail server, banner, in-n-out, swing dance, cooking (because we have a potluck), programming, LDAP/kerberos...the point is we have a lot of procrastination time, we might as well take advantage of it. thomson: with gordeon's gamma, we can have online user signup elliot: i'll make groups of related topics the following things are on the blackboard: programming mail server banner ant-semitism imaging hamburgers game dev network online user signup dota cooking web dev flyering video streaming fundraising/publicity web interface for webspace management recruiting rock and roll extreme pwnage retinal scan access grants meithan: definitely online user signup and mysql replication elliot: LDAP/Kerberos is definitely going to happen sahnn: it would help if we explained what technical issues are so that staff members would be interested elliot: explains what kerberos is, basically it's going to be more secure/awesome. mail server must be more secure/faster, staff members who do this would learn a thing or two about sysadmin'ing abhi: me and cardi are going to work on mysql replication, rt, and webdev and other things, if anyone's interested, add to the staffwiki sluo: rt is basically a issue tracker, to make sure e-mails don't get lost elliot: everyone should be signing up for something; if you don't, you have to realize that you're not doing anything for the OCF abhi: we need to document stuff for future OCF staff members so we don't trip over ourselves sluo: read the staffwiki page on LDAP, lol elliot: LDAP/kerberos, RT, mysql replication will meet weekly. basically: i'll pay for your food or books, it's just going to happen. sahnn: if n00b staff members want to help, will they be able to learn as they go? sluo: it depends. LDAP--maybe, webdev, definitely elliot: after BoD today, i'd like to set up times to meet and details and such. and i'm also not against scheduling dota games, jew meetings, etc. dima: i want a security group (geo peers at the minutes as it is being typed) akit: anything to add? dima: security, every friday, 7-8 pm elliot: are you going to be there? dima: jameson will geo: gameserver, online escort service elliot: ok, once BoD ends, everyone talk to people about joining groups. ---Motion--- sluo: move to allocate $1k for SM discretionary fund cld seconds, followed by a lot of people motion passes: 14/1/2 ---Motion--- cld moves to adjourn aoaks seconds ---Adjourned 8:24---