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« on: Oct 30th, 2012, 3:36am »
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human mind is like an ocean. No one can understand it completely. do you agree with it?
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 1st, 2012, 9:39am »
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What part of ocean don't you understand?  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 3rd, 2012, 5:55am »
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Imagine the universe is an ocean and each of us is a wave in that ocean. The wave and the ocean are the same.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 6th, 2013, 10:38pm »
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Yes its like an ocean but the mind can only understand it and no one else.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 2nd, 2013, 7:10am »
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Absolutely....Its even more vast.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 22nd, 2013, 10:21pm »
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It is very complex but I don't think it will never be fully understood. Especially with all of the extra money going into brain research with the BRAIN initiative.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 29th, 2014, 9:39pm »
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Yes, I completely agree... mind cannot be fully understood.
 
And under humans, how about we womens.... seems more complex...  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 30th, 2014, 4:59am »
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I lost my mind years ago.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 30th, 2014, 8:59am »
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on Jan 30th, 2014, 4:59am, alien2 wrote:
I lost my mind years ago.

Have you checked the lost and found?
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 30th, 2014, 9:33am »
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Yes I did but they're looking for it too.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 10th, 2014, 10:56am »
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I agree. And I don't understand why should we understand our mind. It won't help us to be happy.
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 10th, 2014, 10:40pm »
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on Apr 10th, 2014, 10:56am, goprel wrote:
I agree. And I don't understand why should we understand our mind. It won't help us to be happy.
It might. It's hard to say for certain whether it can or can't without understanding the mind.
 
Anyway, people put too much emphasis on being happy, and too little on being content.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 11th, 2014, 4:05am »
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An interesting thing is that when medicine students study diseases they start to think that they have the symptoms of all diseases. The same is for psychology - the more they understand mind the more problems they have (just they think that they have)
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 11th, 2014, 5:20am »
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But that's just confirmation bias creeping in. If you study disease/disorder, you'll recognize signs of it faster (even if there is no disease or disorder). But there are many areas in psychology you can study other than pathology, which won't have that particular pitfall.
 
Understanding the quirks of human psychology makes it a lot easier to forgive people for being human rather than interpret everything they do as pure malevolence. And that in turn makes me sleep a lot better at night.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 11th, 2014, 6:00am »
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towr, but you are trying to understand your mind using your mind. You have a tool and you want to do a job with itself. It's impossible.
 
You can work with other mind as psychologist but not with your's mind
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 11th, 2014, 8:03am »
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Why would that be impossible? I can have designs and documentation for a computer on a computer. I can even simulate computers on a computer. Why wouldn't a tool be able to work on itself?
If I cut myself I can put a bandaid on myself, I don't need someone else to do that for me. When I make a judgement in error, I can reflect on that myself and consider what I might have done better.
 
 
There's nothing paradoxical about understanding the biases, illusions and pitfalls of the human mind, whether your own or another's. Sure, it doesn't stop you from being biased, deluded and tripping yourself up on a regular basis, but whenever you take a moment and step back you can see that's what happening. Why should it be an issue for me to understand that I cannot unconditionally trust my memories? There is ample scientific evidence that memories are unreliable. Why should it be problematic for me to realize I suffer from confirmation bias (like every other human)? I might not always realize it, and remedy it, at the time it's happening; but it's not exactly rocket science either.
 
And besides, you don't need a complete and full understanding of something for it to be useful. I very much doubt you have a full understanding of the computer you're using, down to the quantum-mechanics that drives it; but you have enough understanding to use it and, probably, improve you day to day life with it.
A little understanding of the human mind goes a long way to improving your understanding of people (and yourself), and dealing with them (and yourself).
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 13th, 2014, 12:05am »
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towr, thank you for interesting discussion.
 
To go deeper I would like to ask you - do you think that you can control your mind?
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 13th, 2014, 4:10am »
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Marayna to Lieutenant Tuvok: "Imagine this: that you - with your logic and your reason - are skimming atop endless waves of emotion. You believe you're in control; but you know that control is an illusion. You believe that you understand the depths beneath you; but that, too, is an illusion."
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 13th, 2014, 6:56am »
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on Apr 13th, 2014, 12:05am, goprel wrote:
To go deeper I would like to ask you - do you think that you can control your mind?
To some extent. If my train of thought goes into a direction I don't want it to go I can usually derail it.  
But it depends on what you mean by control, exactly.
There's all sorts of training and habits you can adopt to direct your mental processes. Though I suppose training and control are not exactly the same thing.
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on Apr 13th, 2014, 6:56am, towr wrote:

Though I suppose training and control are not exactly the same thing.

Agree.
 
But what can you train your mind? Is it possible to train to be it always happy and content? No. Is it possible to avoid anger? No.
 
So what could you train?
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« Reply #20 on: Apr 13th, 2014, 10:08pm »
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You can train yourself to be content more often and angry less often. I mean, if you train for some sport you also can't train to always win. It's silly to consider that the goal.  
Meditation/mindfulness has some documented effect on overcoming depression.  
And you can teach yourself to recognize the signs of all the different biases/illusions the human mind is prone to so you can get out of those situations asap. If nothing else it'll help you to not fall victim to a great deal of marketing tricks (or at least less often).
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« Reply #21 on: Apr 18th, 2014, 9:23am »
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Yes. So concluding we could say that we could train our mind but only till some level Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 18th, 2014, 7:01pm »
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Maybe it was so like 20 years ago but not so much anymore. Few things left which we havent figured out yet and soon enough it wont remain a mystery.
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 2nd, 2015, 1:37am »
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Nobody can understand our mind. Scientists know less than 5 percent about our brain
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 2nd, 2015, 1:54am »
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Science did a lot on brain studying. I believe that we will get interesting results even this century.
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