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« on: Jan 9th, 2014, 10:00am »
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This is not a usual post...
 
I have decided to try tutorial assistance at  the local technical University.
 
I am teaching "C language" course to non-CS students (by some reason, it's compulsory for almost all faculties here).
 
Next lesson is "Recursion", and I would like to give a good example of using recursion. Unfortunately, all the examples given in the slides may be easily - and more efficiently - implemented using simple loops.
 
But I am looking for an example where:
 
1. The problem formulation is not too difficult.
2. Solution using recursion is simpler, easier to implement than using loops.
3. The efficiency of recursion is of the same complexity as loop solution.
 
Under these restrictions, some problems naturally stated recursively - factorial, Fibonacci numbers, binomial coefficients - fall short.
 
Could you think of a good example?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 9th, 2014, 10:46am »
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Two examples that readily come to mind are:
- Searching in a tree.  
- Creating all permutations of a string.
 
NB, I think it's good to show an example like Fibonacci to teach them that recursion can be a horrible solution.
It'd also be good to teach them about tail recursion (which a compiler can optimize as a loop).
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 12th, 2014, 10:57pm »
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Towr, the example with generating all permutations of a string is excellent!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 13th, 2014, 4:49am »
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The same question has been asked here
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 13th, 2014, 4:51am »
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More seriously, another example would be an expression analyzer.
Or solving the towers of Hanoi from an arbitrary position.
Or solving a puzzle like sudoku with backtracking.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 13th, 2014, 8:34am »
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Practical
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.. tangible:
... producing a listing of a file system's directory:  
.... all the files in the top level directory which may have
..... sub-directories each of which may have
...... sub-directories each of which may have
....... sub-directories ...
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 13th, 2014, 10:33am »
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Add the Tic-Tac-Toe puzzle to that.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 13th, 2014, 10:10pm »
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And chess.
 
But with graph problems (which is what many games come down to) you must be careful, because you can reach the same state via multiple path, and you only want to deal with them once.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 14th, 2014, 6:40pm »
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Here's what I was talking about earlier. File system-based recursion, Korn shell style. This should mimick 'ls -lR' closely:
 
Code:

#!/bin/ksh
 
listMe()
{
 echo ""
 echo "`pwd`:"
 ls -l
 l="`ls  -1 ./`"
 if [ -z "${l}" ]
 then
  echo " This directory is empty."
 else
  for f in ${l}
  do
   if [ -d "${f}" ]
   then
    cd "${f}"
 
    #
    # Recursion.
    #
    listMe
 
    cd ../
   fi
  done
 fi
}
 
cd "$1"
listMe
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 15th, 2014, 9:28am »
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Or computing the Ackerman function. Roll Eyes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_function
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 15th, 2014, 3:21pm »
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In case you find it useful I've added two extras - stack frame numbers as they come and go and indentation to visualize the depth of recursion. For every new frame I shift the output one space over to the right:
 
#!/bin/ksh 
 
indent()
{
N=$1
 
        while [ ${N} -gt 1 ]
        do
                echo " \c"
                let N="${N} - 1"
        done
}
 
Echo()
{
        indent $1
        echo "$2"
}
 
Ls()
{
        ls -l | while read ln
        do
                indent $1
                echo ${ln}
        done
}
 
listMe()
{
SFN=$1
 
        echo ""
        Echo ${SFN} "Stack frame ${SFN} IN."
        Echo ${SFN} "`pwd`:"
        Ls ${SFN}
        l="`ls  -1 ./`"
        if [ -z "${l}" ]
        then
                Echo ${SFN} " This directory is empty."
        else
                for f in ${l}
                do
                        if [ -d "${f}" ]
                        then
                                cd "${f}"
 
                                #
                                # Recursion.
                                #
                                let SFN="${SFN} + 1"
                                listMe ${SFN}
                                let SFN="${SFN} - 1"
 
                        cd ../
                fi
                done
        fi
        Echo ${SFN} "Stack frame ${SFN} OUT (`pwd`).\n"
}
 
cd "$1"
listMe 1
}

 
I also found it useful to comment out (or make optional) the call to the Ls() function in listMe(). This way the only factor that controls recursion - directories - show up in the output.
 
(Edit: changed "add" to "added".)
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 25th, 2014, 10:19pm »
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following is the program
 
 
#include "stdio.h"
 
void towers(int,char,char,char);
 
void towers(int n,char frompeg,char topeg,char auxpeg)
{ /* If only 1 disk, make the move and return */
if(n==1)
{ printf("\nMove disk 1 from peg %c to peg %c",frompeg,topeg);
return;
}
/* Move top n-1 disks from A to B, using C as auxiliary */
towers(n-1,frompeg,auxpeg,topeg);
/* Move remaining disks from A to C */
printf("\nMove disk %d from peg %c to peg %c",n,frompeg,topeg);
/* Move n-1 disks from B to C using A as auxiliary */
towers(n-1,auxpeg,topeg,frompeg);
}
main()
{ int n;
printf("Enter the number of disks : ");
scanf("%d",&n);
printf("The Tower of Hanoi involves the moves :\n\n");
towers(n,'A','C','B');
return 0;
}
 
 
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