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Another integral  
« on: Oct 21st, 2008, 6:13pm »
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Evaluate ln(9 - x) / [ln(9 - x) + ln(x - 3)].dx
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #1 on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 12:08am »
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substitute u = 12 - x to get ln(u - 3) / [ln(9 - u) + ln(x - u)]dx So the original integral plus this one add up to the 1 from 4 to 8, which is 4. Thus the answer to the original is 2.
 
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #2 on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 1:50am »
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on Oct 22nd, 2008, 12:08am, 1337b4k4 wrote:
I can see other people's math just fine. This was working before... am I not formatting it right?
Have you ticked the "Insert Symbols" box? If you don't use the "Add symbols" menu, and you don't quote a post that uses symbols, then you have to tick that box yourself (otherwise it's automatic).
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #3 on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:31am »
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There we go, thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 11:08am »
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Hello
 
i am sorry but ı cant understood this problem
 
Could you explain me?
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #5 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 11:17am »
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Hello  
 
My name is Adnan Donmez from Turkey
 
I have problem with this integral problem
 
Can you explain me?
 
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Evaluate ln(9 - x) / [ln(9 - x) + ln(x - 3)].dx
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #6 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 11:24am »
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If you select the orange area in 1337b4k4's post, you should be able to see his solution.
He makes a clever substitution, adds the two integrals, and then the solution is suddenly very simply.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 1:28pm »
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I saw him solution
 
But i cant understand
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #8 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 2:02pm »
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Make a substitution
ln(9 - x) / [ln(9 - x) + ln(x - 3)]
=> x=v
ln(9 - v) / [ln(9 - v) + ln(v - 3)]
=> v= 12-x
ln(9 - (12-x)) / [ln(9 - (12-x)) + ln((12-x) - 3)]
=>
ln(x-3) / [ln(x - 3) + ln(9-x)]
=>
ln(x-3) / [ln(9-x) + ln(x - 3) ]
 
(As for the rest of the integral, the boundaries are switched, but so is the direction of integration 4->8, 8->4, dx -> d(12-x)= -dx)
 
Add the original and new expressions together
ln(9 - x) / [ln(9 - x) + ln(x - 3)] + ln(x-3) / [ln(9-x) + ln(x - 3) ]
=>
[ln(9 - x) + ln(x-3)] / [ln(9 - x) + ln(x - 3)]
=>
1
 
Integrating over a constant is fairly simple, and will get you twice the value you're looking for.
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Re: Another integral  
« Reply #9 on: Nov 17th, 2008, 2:05pm »
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