``` wu :: forums (http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi) general >> wanted >> BERNSTEIN'S THEOREM (Message started by: Pietro K.C. on Oct 11th, 2002, 2:06pm) ``` Title: BERNSTEIN'S THEOREM Post by Pietro K.C. on Oct 11th, 2002, 2:06pm   So, I was reading a different proof of the Schroder-Bernstein theorem than the one I knew, and stumbled.   You'll recall that the SB theorem states that, given two sets A,B, if there exists a one-to-one mapping f from A to a subset B' of B, and also a one-to-one mapping g from B to a subset A' of A, then there exists a one-to-one mapping from A to B. In symbols (where C denotes "is a subset of"):There exists f : A -> B' C B, f 1-to-1There exists g : B -> A' C A, g 1-to-1----------------------------Hence there is h : A -> B, h 1-to-1or in cardinal notation, where a = card(A), b = card(B):a <= b, b <= a --> a = b.The proof I'm reading, due to Peano and Zermelo (independently), is basically as follows:Let A' = g(B), B' = f(A), basically as defined above. But also let A" = g(B') = g(f(A)). Let A ~ B denote equipotence between sets (the fact that there exists a one-to-one mapping from one to the other). Clearly, A" ~ A. Now decompose A into the 3 disjoint subsets P, Q, R as follows:P = A"Q = A'\A" (the elements of A' not in A")R = A\A'.We have P U Q = A', P U Q U R = A ~ A" = P. Because B ~ A', it will be enough to show that P U Q ~ P.   Let F denote g o f, that is, F(x) = g(f(x)) for all x in A, and, for each subset X of A, define X* = F(X) U Q. We say that X is normal if X* C X.   Now, here comes the stumbling block: "it is readily seen that all sets X* are normal", writes the author of the article (which is actually about something else). I don't see it quite so clearly. If O is the empty set, the O* = F(O) U Q = Q. From the above statement, we must conclude that Q is normal. But that will happen iff Q* = F(Q) U Q C Q, which in turn will happen iff F(Q) C Q. But F(Q) is entirely contained in P (since P is the image of F), and we have P inter Q = O, by construction!   I came up with a further example of the falsity of this affirmation; suppose that A = B = N, the set of natural numbers (zero included). Suppose further that f(n) = g(n) = 2n, for all n in N. Then A' = B' = the set of even numbers, and F(n) = g(f(n)) = g(2n) = 4n, so A" = the set of numbers divisible by four. To ease visualization:A = B = {0,1,2,3,4,...} (naturals)A' = B' = {0,2,4,6,...} (even numbers)A" = P = {0,4,8,12,16,...} (numbers divisible by 4)Q = A'\A" = {2,6,10,14,...} (even numbers not divisible by 4)R = {1,3,5,7,...} (odd numbers)I will show that there exists X, a subset of A, such that X* is NOT normal. It is actually very simple. Consider X = {0}. ThenX* = F({0}) U Q = {0} U Q = {0,2,6,10,...};butX** = (X*)* = F(X*) U Q; since 2 is in X*, 8 is in F(X*), and hence in X**. But it is easy to see that 8 is NOT in X*, therefore NOT(X** C X*), therefore X* is NOT normal.   Fortunately, the proof does not depend on the hypothesis that X* is normal for all X; it is sufficient that there exist some subset U of A such that U* = U, which I have been able to prove independently.   But I was left curious: am I blatantly missing something here, or is the article wrong?Note: The article is by Leonard Gillman, and was published on the "American Mathematical Monthly", in the June-July edition of 2002. Title: Re: BERNSTEIN'S THEOREM Post by Icarus on Nov 12th, 2002, 4:58pm Unless there was something in the article that you didn't mention, obviously you are not missing something, since both your counterexamples clearly contradict the claim. Is it possible that he meant "For all normal sets X, X* is normal"? That one is "readily seen"! Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.4! Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board