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aero_guy
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To win my first (medium)
« on: Mar 16th, 2003, 2:09pm » |
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Remember, medium is a relative term and who am I riddles usually aren't that hard.
To win my first men struggle all their lives,-
Yet willingly present it to their wives.
The wise man no great fortune has amassed,
But lives his life contented with my last.
An infant is my whole at early age;
And Lot's wife was my whole on Scripture?s page.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #1 on: Mar 26th, 2003, 9:01am » |
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something about a pillar of salt, I'm trying to piece this together? Any suggestions? 
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #2 on: Mar 26th, 2003, 10:53pm » |
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I got the salt part also, and while doing a little out of the box thinking discovered that the more correct translation should be pillar of asphalt. Biblical scholors believe that the term used did not refer to NaCl, but to the black tar like substance that bubbled out of the ground and was used to cover roads. That brings us no closer.
I think that this riddle refers to the first and last parts of a word in the first two stanzas. Then the entire word in the last stanza. So you could get maybe.
Paycheck-health
Cash-love
Bread-peace
Salt was also used to refer to a man's earnings or value.
How about
Saltpeace
Salt water taffy
love-pride
That one works because men will give love to their wives, but doesn't work unless they need to struggle for it all their lives.
Maybe it is a whole sentence.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #3 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 3:59am » |
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on Mar 26th, 2003, 10:53pm, Speaker wrote:...the more correct translation should be pillar of asphalt...
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the Hebrew word used is "melach", which is salt (at least in modern Hebrew).
But I was thinking -- maybe the reference to Lot's wife is what she was before turning to salt pilar: curious.
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How about supercalifragilisticexpialidociouspuzzler [Towr, 2007]
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #4 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 11:15am » |
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Finally someone is trying this one, and it is turning out a little harder than I imagined. So, here are some hints:
hint 1: how to solve this kind of problem
Speaker was correct that "first" and "last" refer to syllables, and "whole" refers to the whole final answer. An example riddle is:
My first is dark;
My second round:
My whole may mark
A hate profound.
The answer is blackball. Black is dark, ball is round, blackball is what you do to exclude someone (like blacklisting them).
hint 2:Salt and asphalt are the wrong track. I would ignore the Lot's wife part and use it as a check once you have found an answer that fits everything else. The first stanza is the easiest. Once you figure out a one syllable answer to that that is good, try finding something to tack onto the the end of it that will make the whole fit the infant part of the riddle. Also, no one has guessed either part yet. BNC, the reference to Lot's wife is what she was before AND after turning to salt.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #5 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 11:33am » |
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I figured it out some time ago, but then, I've been through the desert.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #6 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 11:39am » |
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Ha cho! That took me couple of minutes to realize it's good to be out of the rain.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #7 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 12:11pm » |
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Ha! Now I have it! 
Thanks for your posts, cho and aero_guy! - They were the really useful hints. I knew the meaning of "part" and "whole", but normally I don't get very far with these What-am-I riddles.
This is a nice one, however. I like it. 
BTW:
aero_guy, you are American, right?
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #8 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 2:19pm » |
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Yup, is there something in my manner of speach that particularly gives it away?
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #9 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 2:46pm » |
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All I can come up with so far is person.
Syllable 1 being purse (cash)
But then I can't make the connection with the desert and out of the rain hints.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #10 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 5:10pm » |
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The desert and the rain are VERY obscure hints that will not make any sense until you get it, and maybe not even then.
Wowbagger, sorry, my last post looks really stupid. I should have known what you meant.
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #11 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 5:28pm » |
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on Mar 28th, 2003, 5:10pm, aero_guy wrote:| The desert and the rain are VERY obscure hints that will not make any sense until you get it, and maybe not even then. |
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Or it might just work the other way round. As soon as I understood the relation between these two obscure posts, I had the solution. Not the ordinary way to solve this riddle, I admit.
Quote:| Wowbagger, sorry, my last post looks really stupid. I should have known what you meant. |
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I refrained from replying to see how long it'll take you to figure out. 
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Re: To win my first (medium)
« Reply #12 on: Apr 2nd, 2003, 4:24pm » |
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Well, better late than never. I have been following this thread since its inception, and looked at it yesterday with as much luck as I had had previously. All great hints serving my efforts to little avail.
Then, as I left the office, it hit me. I was filled with chagrin and a deep feeling that my riddling ability was wallowing in a shallow pit of lameness. 
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