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JukeBox_Hero
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Not a nickel
« on: Sep 7th, 2006, 8:32am » |
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What 2 coins add up to be 30 cents....one of them is not a nickle.
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Sameer
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #1 on: Sep 7th, 2006, 8:44am » |
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Quarter and a nickel... quarter is not a nickel...
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #2 on: Sep 7th, 2006, 8:47am » |
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uhhh, because one is a quarter The one that is a quarter, can't be a nickel.
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #3 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 12:10am » |
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In australia, this is easily solved, 20 cent piece and 10 cent piece.
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #4 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 6:16am » |
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Yep, the currency isn't stated so...
In my country, there's 25 & 5 cents, add them together and yee get 30. 
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Sameer
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #5 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 9:25am » |
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do each of these countries call 5 cents a nickel? I really don't know..
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #6 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 11:06am » |
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I think all people call a 5-cent coin a nickle, but not all countries have coins with a face value of 5 cents, hence comes a plausible alternative solution from Roy.
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #7 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 1:09pm » |
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on Sep 8th, 2006, 11:06am, oh_boy wrote:| I think all people call a 5-cent coin a nickle |
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Only when we're forced to translate it to english.
Actually, our 5-cent coin doesn't have a name. None of our coins have, really; not since the introduction of the euro. I suppose sooner of later someone'll think of something that catches on..
But I don't use change much anyway.
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #8 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 1:40pm » |
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yes i agree with towr.. first of all the thing 5 cent itself is explanatory in the word "cent"... not every country uses dollars/cents as their denomination.. secondly i found some articles on wikipedia suggesting a three cent nickel.. the coins were called nickels because nickel was the element used to replace silver for these coins after silver shortage..
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oh_boy
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #9 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 1:43pm » |
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I believe the word 'nickel' has existed for decades (although I don't exactly know how long as I am no good at the history of English language) as one could easily find it in any English dictionary; its existence should have nothing to do with Euro. Besides, this riddle has long been in existence before the introduction of Euro...
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #10 on: Sep 8th, 2006, 1:55pm » |
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on Sep 8th, 2006, 1:43pm, oh_boy wrote:| its existence should have nothing to do with Euro. Besides, this riddle has long been in existence before the introduction of Euro... |
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Yes, but we why would we use english names for things in our predominantly dutch nation? (Yes, why indeed, manager, computer, email.. OK, so we're lazy inventing new words..)
The point being, when we had a 5 cent piece, before the introduction of the Euro, it was called a "stuiver". We never called it a nickel except when we had to translate it to english/american, since that is their equivalent for a 5 cent piece, and "stuiver" wouldn't have made sense to them.
However, with the introduction of the euro, we now have a 5 euro-cent piece, that's worth 2.21 times as much as our "stuiver" used to be worth, so the name just doesn't feel right. Hence it is has no name, other than it's description "5 cents".
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #11 on: Sep 9th, 2006, 2:48pm » |
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on Sep 8th, 2006, 1:55pm, towr wrote:
Yes, but we why would we use english names for things in our predominantly dutch nation? |
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Towr, I think you are just tryring to end up with some typical meaningless arguments and perhaps, everything started when I generally commented that 'all people call a 5-cent coin as nickel'. First, let me rephrase it with on_boys perspective, and if anyone still argues, it just looks stupid on him coz no one except oh_boy can argue with oh_boy's perspective, whether you agree to it or not: "alll people, except Towr and other non-english nations people not knowing the word nickel, know a 5-cent coin is called a nickel'.
Second, the fact that dutch does not need to use the word does not mean that they are right or smart, it just means otherwise. Third, the riddle is an english, should you be answewring it in english perspective?
Don't get into the illusion of trying to argue with everything just becoz you guys are the uberpuzzler, or whatever?
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #12 on: Sep 9th, 2006, 3:51pm » |
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Sorry, oh_boy, but you were the one who was being arrogant, not towr. Next time you say "all people", think about it first.
If it is even true that all english speakers call 5-cent pieces nickels, then it is only a bad habit picked up from us americans. We named our 5-cent piece a nickel because that is the metal it is made of (or at least, used to be). I'm not sure this applies to other english speaking countries.
What do they call a 5-penny piece in England?
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #13 on: Sep 9th, 2006, 6:10pm » |
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just five pence.
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #14 on: Sep 9th, 2006, 8:24pm » |
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on Sep 7th, 2006, 8:32am, JukeBox_Hero wrote:What 2 coins add up to be 30 cents....one of them is not a nickle.
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SO I think this question only applies to whoever is willing to agree what nickle means and not for the eyes of big DUMB uberpuzzlers....LOL whatever u say, 'nobody icarus'  feel free to circitize, math phd (really same meaning in dutch, english, and african HAHAHAAH) , blah blah blah, HAHAHAHAH , no further response from me being a non-uberpuzzler, let me take a look at other non-dutch riddles now, LOL
Feel free to be the last one to talk (bullsh*t) as usual, and u have the privilege to do so as u spent sooo much time to maintain this dumb site as uberpuzzler, but of course u would know but not admit it won't make u any smarter than a dumber... shoot now, i won't comment to this message any more.....lol
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Re: I need help!
« Reply #15 on: Sep 10th, 2006, 8:47am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2006, 2:48pm, oh_boy wrote:| Towr, I think you are just tryring to end up with some typical meaningless arguments and perhaps, everything started when I generally commented that 'all people call a 5-cent coin as nickel'. |
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I was just trying explain my previous post, adressing the points you brought up in your reply.
I'm sorry for misjudging your interest in the subject. Most people here enjoy tangential discussions, but not all I guess.
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #16 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 3:58am » |
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In Australia we just call it a five-cent piece, and we certainly speak English... *shrug* I think it's made of nickel, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #17 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 4:30am » |
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Hard to believe it's been almost two years.. Welcome back.
Time to update the missing persons list again 
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #18 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 12:57am » |
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on Sep 14th, 2006, 3:58am, mistysakura wrote:| and we certainly speak English... *shrug* |
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While i was in england, somebody asked me how did i say hello in australian, i replied, "hello", "yeah, but how do you say it in australian?" I just can't belive the people in the world who are like that.,\\ sorry to anyone who is like that in the forums. 
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #19 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 5:54am » |
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on Sep 17th, 2006, 12:57am, Roy wrote:
While i was in england, somebody asked me how did i say hello in australian, i replied, "hello", "yeah, but how do you say it in australian?" I just can't belive the people in the world who are like that.,\\ sorry to anyone who is like that in the forums. |
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Well, some say "G'day", but I suspected that was to wind up tourists 
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #20 on: Sep 19th, 2006, 6:27pm » |
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My brother said that also.
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #21 on: Jan 10th, 2007, 9:28am » |
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on Sep 7th, 2006, 8:32am, JukeBox_Hero wrote:What 2 coins add up to be 30 cents....one of them is not a nickle.
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The answer: a quarter and a nickle.
The question stated that one of them is not a nickle, but the other one is.
oops, answered already
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Re: Not a nickel
« Reply #22 on: Jan 10th, 2007, 9:44am » |
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Two coins add up to 30 cents and neither of them are nickles. 
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