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Re: Asimov?s Black Widowers ? the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #25 on: Jan 19th, 2005, 6:09am » |
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so how can we exactly help poor Larri? My brain already hurts.
Can't find a solution.
1. Did Gwendolyn leave the bus at a branch of Nabisco? (as i get it, the company-name changed to Nabisco 1971). Is the company name relevant?
2. Is there a personal relationship of Gwendolyn with this company?
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Re: Asimov?s Black Widowers ? the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #26 on: Jan 19th, 2005, 6:45am » |
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on Jan 19th, 2005, 6:09am, brainscan wrote:| so how can we exactly help poor Larri? |
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You can start by finding the right company name...
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1. Did Gwendolyn leave the bus at a branch of Nabisco? (as i get it, the company-name changed to Nabisco 1971). Is the company name relevant?
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Not Nabisco, but yes to the right company
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With one of its empoyees.
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Unless I am just not very observant, in England I haven't heard of the company, Nabisco. But doing some research there seems to be a connection with a man called Adolphus Green who, after acquiring other major biscuit manufacturing companies, founded the National Biscuit company in 1898; in 1971 it changed its name to Nabisco.
The image/logo was originally used in 1898 on their new Uneeda biscuit/cracker as an indication of their revolutionary, and patented, "in-er-seal" packaging method to keep biscuits fresher for longer.
1. I am guessing that the link with the employee is not connected with a senior member of the company as much as someone who just happened to work for the company?
Or is the name of the employee significant?
2. Is the surname (i) Kraft, (ii) Cheek, (iii) Green, (iv) Jacobs, (v) Mayer, (vi) Post, (vii) Roselius, (viii) Suchard, or (ix) Tobler?
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Re: Asimov’s Black Widowers – the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #28 on: Jan 19th, 2005, 3:00pm » |
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1. Just a simple employee
2. Not relevant.
Those are simply not the company identified by Asimov... not less good. I do think that in the states the original one is much more common.
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Re: Asimov’s Black Widowers – the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #29 on: Jan 19th, 2005, 7:12pm » |
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Much more common than Nabisco? That would take some doing! Alas that I pay so little attention to advertising. I am sure I will recognize the symbol when it is revealed, but am highly unlikely to think of it on my own.
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Re: Asimov?s Black Widowers ? the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #30 on: Jan 19th, 2005, 10:48pm » |
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I was on the same track as Sir Col (great research by the way!  ). Trying to identify the history of Nabisco. I thought the sister of a founder or something was named Gwendolyn. Didn't find anything like that.
I just realized that the two "X"s in the logo of Exxon have a "Cross of Lorrain"-like structure.
http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/gFM/home_Contact_Us/homepage.asp
So BNC, is there a connection to Exxon? That would be a company i know. Nabisco is totally unknown in Switzerland.
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Re: Asimov’s Black Widowers – the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #31 on: Jan 20th, 2005, 1:15am » |
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Yes indeed.
And a gas station is likely to be seen on the side of the road even on a dark night.
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So, what do you think? Care for more of these?
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Re: Asimov?s Black Widowers ? the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #32 on: Jan 20th, 2005, 1:43am » |
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So that was it? Gwendolyn got off at the gas station? So Larri has to look for a gas station and he will find beautiful Gwendolyn. Her brother works at this gas station.
I liked this post very much! Didn't know Asimov also had this kind of stories. More of it for me BNC! Had a lot uf fun with that. 
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Re: Asimov’s Black Widowers – the cross of Lorrain
« Reply #33 on: Jan 20th, 2005, 9:16am » |
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on May 1976, Asimov wrote:
"The one thing," said Henry, "that si designed to be seen, without trouble, day or night, on any highway is a gas station sign. The child saw the the Cross of Lorraine in this one, but Mr. Larri, retracting the route, sees only a double X, since he reads the entire word as Exxon. All signs showing this name, whether on the highway, in advertisements, or on credit cards, show the name in this fashion."
Now Larri caught fire. "You mean, Henry, that if I go into the Exxon stations en route and ask for Gwendolyn..."
"The proprietor of one of them is likely to be her brother, and there would not be more than five or six at most to inquire at."
"Good God, Henry," said Larri, "you're a magician."
"Merely simpleminded," said Henry, "though perhaps in the nonpejorative sense."
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