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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« on: Apr 11th, 2005, 7:15am »
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Well, he could knock over his glass and wait for a waitress to clean it up, assuming the bar is 30m away...Roll Eyes
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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« Reply #1 on: Apr 11th, 2005, 9:12am »
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I think it might have to do with how stringent the definition of "contraption" is.
 
For example, he could spill a few drops on the table, and wiat for flys / bees to come to it and then fly away.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 11th, 2005, 10:25am »
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Uhm... does his body count as a contraption?
 
Can't he just lift up the glass and toss it away?
 
Can the glass stay with the content, or should they be seperated?...
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 11th, 2005, 2:57pm »
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Is the bar located at a high place (cliff / skyscraper/plane)?
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 12th, 2005, 12:29am »
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Is a stomach a contraption?
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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« Reply #5 on: Apr 12th, 2005, 7:23am »
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Is John's position that Mark should lend him $3000  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 9:00am »
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Can he make use of Earth's rotation?
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 12:16pm »
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on Apr 13th, 2005, 11:33am, alien wrote:
No.
 
I have a feeling that some of you are focusing on the bar. The bar is of no importance. John can pick any spot he likes in the town.

Does the town have a river?
 
Would his friend drink the coke, and then walk away: "You won't succeed anyway!"
 
when his friend is 30m away, John yells "I just did!"
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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« Reply #8 on: Apr 14th, 2005, 1:42pm »
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I guess that the conveyor belt at a Sushi bar is considered to be a contraption?
 
 
I know that you said he doesn't require assistance, but technically the following solutions are not utilising assistance: assistance usually requires collaboration and the waitress would be ignorant to the purpose of the request; it would be like saying that the midwife who oversaw the delivery of Adolf Hitler assisted in the murder of millions of Jews and Poles.
 
Could he not call the waitress over and say, "This coke is flat. Can I have another glass, please?", or just simply say, "Thank you, but I don't want anymore of this drink. Could you take the glass away, please?" Hopefully the glass, with its contents, would be removed and poured away.
 
Or could he place the coke in a sealable bottle and toss it across the room?
 
Note that even this last solution requires some form of assistance: gravity.
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 12:56am »
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Without moving a finger, he tells that he knows about Mark and his secretary and that it would cost him much more than $3000 in his divorce case, so he propose they just pretend he did the coke trick.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 1:51am »
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on Apr 15th, 2005, 12:56am, Grimbal wrote:
Without moving a finger, he tells that he knows about Mark and his secretary and that it would cost him much more than $3000 in his divorce case, so he propose they just preted he did the coke trick.

Unfortunately, Mark wasn't married anyway, so that didn't help either. Wink I think
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 5:46am »
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The content of the glass, could it be ... air ?
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 3:40pm »
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I think that:
 
He already has his straw in his mouth.  So he doesnt' have to move his body to drink.
 
AND
 
His intestines are 30m long, and the coke takes that journey.
 
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 21st, 2005, 5:07am »
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on Apr 18th, 2005, 3:40pm, Padzok wrote:
I think that:
 
He already has his straw in his mouth.  So he doesnt' have to move his body to drink.

I sure hope you're joking.  
 
 
Focus on this part of the riddle: "..without any transferring contraption enabling you to do this.."
 
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 21st, 2005, 6:59am »
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As BNC said, I think we need to clarify what constitutes a contraption. I would define a contraption as a device, usually mechanical but could include living, which does work; or more generally tranforms energy from one type to another. As movement of matter is a form of energy and requires work to be done, a contraption is necessary.
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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« Reply #15 on: Apr 21st, 2005, 3:17pm »
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on Apr 21st, 2005, 5:07am, alien wrote:

I sure hope you're joking.  

 
Unfortunately, I was being serious.  Embarassed
 
So how long do we have?  And how much of the contents need to move?
 
If they've been sitting in the bar since your first post, then quite a lot of it wil have evaporated by now, and could be in the next continent.
 
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 25th, 2005, 8:55am »
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If he has a supply of napkins, he could ball them up, soak the coke into them and throw them.
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If there are no napkins, he could use his own clothing.  Tearing apart his undershirt or perhaps using his socks.
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 25th, 2005, 11:08am »
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That is not allowed.
 
on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:17pm, Padzok wrote:

how much of the contents need to move?

Half a pint of Coke is enough.
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 25th, 2005, 1:10pm »
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Does the carbonation in the coke help him out?
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« Reply #19 on: Apr 25th, 2005, 2:38pm »
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So you ain't allowing evaporation then?  Wink
 
But what about drinking?
 
Is that part of the solution?  ie do we have to figure out how he drinks it without changing his position?
 
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on Apr 25th, 2005, 1:10pm, honkyboy wrote:
Does the carbonation in the coke help him out?

No.
 
 
on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:38pm, Padzok wrote:

But what about drinking?
 
Is that part of the solution?  ie do we have to figure out how he drinks it without changing his position?
 

Nope.
 
 
on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:38pm, Padzok wrote:

So you ain't allowing evaporation then?  Wink

No because it is unpractical and I think that only water would evaporate but you are on the right track.
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« Reply #21 on: Apr 27th, 2005, 8:59am »
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Do nothing.  Just wait for somebody to call the elevator.
And who said the bar is not in an elevator?
Or one of these rotating restaurants?
Or a camping car?
Or a train?
Or the titanic just before it sank?
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 30th, 2005, 11:14am »
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John has to try to transfer Coke standing in the open.
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Re: Always Coca-Cola  
« Reply #23 on: May 8th, 2005, 11:53am »
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i thought of a smiple but retarded solution
 
he simply just spills the coke over, and the force from the spill takes the coke 30m
 
maybe  Huh
 since the original problem didnt say that the contents need stay in the glass, but the coke needs to move 30m away
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« Reply #24 on: May 11th, 2005, 3:40pm »
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I got an unexpected tip from an informer.
Freeze the coke and slide it over (or throw it) to the other end of the room.
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