Daniel C. Burton writes: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Jeff Bishop <jeff@bishop-nospam.net> wrote: >: Daniel C. Burton wrote: > >: > Go up on the shock value props and on the good ideas and I imagine we'd >: > get quite a bit of attention. > >: I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but this "great libertarian flasher" >: tactic is likely to backfire. > >You're probably right. What seems like a good idea at first does not >always turn out to be so after some further thought. If even one person >has this kind of reaction, I'm inclined to call the whole thing off. Since most people are _not libertarians_ and most people in the U.S. _support Democracy_ it doesn't seem likely that a lot of people are going to agree right off. But one of the points of the protest was presumably that many people haven't even thought about it; if the protest can raise the consciousness of a few people even while annoying a few people, it may be worthwhile. This protest can work if someone sees it and says "They're crazy for protesting Democracy" and then, a few years later, is ganged-up upon (metaphorically) by a majority and is moved to remember what we had to say and, perhaps, to agree with it a little more. We should aim to legitimize the dislike of majority rule, and not expect that everyone will agree immediately. >You paint things as if the only possibilities are absolute rule by the >majority or absolute rule by the majority of a small group of >representatives, but the best kind of checks against direct democracy are >the ones that require the action of multiple layers of representative >bodies to do anything. These can protect your liberty even if less than >50% of the populace believes in doing so. The economic monetarists have advocated _automatic_ rather than _discretionary_ economic policies (which is why economic liberals don't like them that much). The idea there is that you figure out a general principle or algorithm to decide your government policy. The Elastic Clause in the Constitution is frustrating because it undermines any attempts to do something like this. I like the idea of governments behaving mechanically rather than interactively, I think, and I'd like to see more automatic and less discretionary government activity. >A really interesting idea that I think I like is the virtual canton >constitution proposed by the Free Nation Foundation (a new country >project). A canton is a sort of subunit in a Switzerland's decentralized >system (which is so decentralized most people don't even know the name of >their national president). In the virtual canton constitution, >jurisdiction of the cantons is based not on territory, but voluntary >membership. Think your taxes are too high? Don't worry, just join >another virtual canton with lower ones. That would certainly nip the >welfare state at the bud.... Wow, an explicit social contract! Are people allowed to belong to no canton at all, since there's presumably no territorial sovereignty? >It's sort of designed to be the next best thing to anarchy for people who >want to buy out territory somewhere and have it recognized by the United >Nations and protected from the kind of meddling a region with no >government at all would be subject to. > >Actually, they're negotiating with certain tribal leaders in the breakaway >region of Somaliland for the rights to create an independent libertarian >country. For the uniformed, the former Republic of Somalia has had no >governemnt for the last seven years and the region of Somaliland wants no >part in any new national government. (Interestingly enough, in the >absence of government, Somalia has developed a sort of defacto >laissez-faire economy and it now has about five times as many exports as >the last year for which government statistics were available. It has also >developed a telecommunications network which rivals any of those in >sub-Saharan Africa. The Freedom Network News had a recent article called >"Does Somalia Really Need a Government?" in which a Somalian argued that >it doesn't.) Wow, that's interesting. Have you heard any criticisms or reports that life in Somaliland leaves something to be desired? George Soros is back in the _Atlantic Monthly_ criticizing capitalism again. He said something close to "capitalism commodifies everything, so you can have a capitalist economy, but not a capitalist society". -- Seth David Schoen, schoen@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU or @UCLink4 WWW: http://ishmael.nmh.northfield.ma.us/~sigma/english