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A new apartment  
« on: Dec 21st, 2005, 4:53pm »
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Mark has moved to a new apartment, so he is showing it to John. So here they are, in the living room, which is the only room that is still empty. John says: 'This is probably not the best time, but could you lend me  $1000?' Mark replies: 'A word of advice, all right? QUIT GAMBLING! Look, you are my friend, and I like riddles, so I will give you a chance, in that if you answer correctly to the following riddle, I will lend you the money...
 
 
 
 
 
 
A new couch for the living room is going to arrive tomorrow, so I would like you to do me a favor, and be here when it gets here, because I have to visit my sick brother in the hospital. If you do this for me, and if you can tell me how could you make the couch to move after delivery men put it in the empty living room but without touching it, I will lend you the money. Also, at your disposal is everything that makes usual apartment, and you are not allowed to do anything that would impede their job in any way.'
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 22nd, 2005, 7:06am »
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Seal all the doors and windows, barring the hihest window.
 
Put hosepipe thru open window.
 
Turn on water.
 
Hey Presto, the couch will float.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 22nd, 2005, 8:04am »
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If the couch has a metal frame -- like some recliner-couch's or futon's do -- you could use really big magnets.
 
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 22nd, 2005, 12:59pm »
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on Dec 22nd, 2005, 7:06am, Padzok wrote:
Seal all the doors and windows, barring the hihest window.
 
Put hosepipe thru open window.
 
Turn on water.
 
Hey Presto, the couch will float.
 

Not bad, but the incoming water would touch the couch, and that is not allowed. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough about that part of the riddle.     Tongue
 
 
 
 
 
on Dec 22nd, 2005, 8:04am, SMQ wrote:
If the couch has a metal frame -- like some recliner-couch's or futon's do -- you could use really big magnets.
 
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Good idea, but there is no metal on this couch, and the usage of special contraption or equipment is not allowed. Wink  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 22nd, 2005, 1:54pm »
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John has been really smart... Instead of gambling, he just saved it Wink. It's that he really likes the riddles Mark thinks off. And, he stores it at the bank, to get some extra interest.
 
So, he asks a friend to move it... The friend is greedy, and asks 50 bucks. So John grands him that. Besides, he already had $50 interest by now Wink..
 
Of course, John wants to think of a better answer, but this John can't. Maybe one of the other Johns?
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 22nd, 2005, 3:25pm »
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You could tell it a really moving story.
 
Or you could ask the delivery people to glue it to the ceiling with not so good a glue.  After a while it will fall down.
 
Or you can start to dig a hole under half of the house.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 23rd, 2005, 3:59am »
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No to both.  
 
 
John alone should try to accomplish this, not someone else.  
 
 Cool
 
 
 
on Dec 22nd, 2005, 3:25pm, Grimbal wrote:
Or you can start to dig a hole under half of the house.

This works in cartoons, but not with concrete, even if you have a chainsaw. Besides, I don't think that Mark's neighbor bellow would appreciate something like that.  Tongue
 
 
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 23rd, 2005, 11:52am »
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He tells the movers to set it down on a rug and pulls it around by the rug.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:00pm »
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The living room is empty except, of course, for the couch, so no rug either.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 23rd, 2005, 12:16pm »
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"Ahh...", says John. "You didn't say what I have to move the couch with respect to. So I shall move it with respect to myself. And this is easy, for all I have to do is walk somewhere."
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 23rd, 2005, 2:32pm »
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Clever approach, but not the answer I had in mind.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 9:21am »
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Well, John looked for some soap (or some melting ice or maybe some oil) and made sure the floor was as slippery as possible.
After the couch was carefully placed on top, and the movers left in disgust, he started jumping around until the couch moved from its place ...
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 9:47am »
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As tonight will be Christmas Eve, John also got another idea (while sipping from Marc's brandy -  how else to kill the time while waiting for those movers to arrive).
He noticed Marc bought some nice large candles to enlight these dark evenings.
Why not take four of them, cut them through their length so they have two flat sides while lying on the floor? Then, let these movers put the couch onto these four candles.
When Marc finally arrives, John joyfully enlights the candles and hopefully waits for the burning candles and the cough's weight to do their work.
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 10:31am »
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Your answer in plausible, but John is not allowed to impede their job, as stated in the riddle.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I have modified the riddle a bit.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 10:53am »
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These self-modifying riddles keep on going, but John is unstoppable ...
After removing the candles and the soap, the movers can put the couch on a carefully cleaned floor.
John turns the stereo installation as high as possible (putting the candles in his ears in order not to get deaf). As he put the boxes very close to the couch, the vibrations have to get it moving ...  Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 11:48am »
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I don't think that this equipment makes usual apartment. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 1:27pm »
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on Dec 24th, 2005, 11:48am, alien wrote:
I don't think that this equipment makes usual apartment. Wink

 
If I didn't already know you weren't American, that statement would have proved it! Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 24th, 2005, 5:02pm »
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Americans have loudspeakers that can make the couch to move? Tongue
 
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 26th, 2005, 3:54pm »
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Is it another use for a big block of ice?
 
PS: or as an alternative, because of the "usual appartment equipment" thing, a use for small ice cubes.
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 27th, 2005, 3:44pm »
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The living room is empty when they put the couch down, so no ice either.    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 3:30am »
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Would it be acceptable to create some kind of lever using items from the appartment (broom stick, chair, ...)?
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 7:07am »
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No, because you are not allowed to touch the couch, and this also excludes broomstick.  Cool
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 28th, 2005, 2:25pm »
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Drop a colony of termites on the wooden floor.  The neighbour below will not be happy, that is sure, but John will get his $1000 (and be eternally indebted to Mark).
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 29th, 2005, 11:41am »
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Grimbal, you just might be on the right track, having in mind one aspect of your suggestion.    Wink
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 29th, 2005, 12:45pm »
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If it is a wooden floor, maybe just jumping around in the room will suffice to get the vibrations to move the couch a little bit?
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