It doesn't have to be the United States government, as I see it, to answer the question. We have a decent record on freedom of speech around here -- just "bad", not "terrifying". "Bad" is pretty decent as governments go. :-) I'm thinking of what governments in general do to bug me. Free speech infringements, for the reasons you mention, are way up there. Incidentally, today there were some leaflets on Sproul about "Human Rights in China" -- the argument was (1) The United States has an awful human rights record, because people are unhappy here. (2) China can't be infringing on human rights, because it's a People's Republic! -- Seth David Schoen L&S '01 (undeclared) / schoen@uclink4.berkeley.edu Magna dis immortalibus habenda est atque huic ipsi Iovi Statori, antiquissimo custodi huius urbis, gratia, quod hanc tam taetram, tam horribilem tamque infestam rei publicae pestem totiens iam effugimus. -- Cicero, in Catilinam I